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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: marsbar395 on November 15, 2025, 09:44:36 pm
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If that is the current TRO then it does seem like you were in the permit bay, the street markings are wrong, and the contravention did not occur.
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Update: I believe I have found the most recent TRO dated May 2024 (https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/15736/tro2312-various-roads-ending-5-july-2024), which includes the relocation of the communal bins last year.
Based on this map tile, there is no legally enforceable yellow line where i parked past the corner of No.4 :D
Infact the permit holders bay extends maybe 3 car lengths past the faded road markings.
I will need to write to the council to confirm, as they do not keep a list of all current TROs on the website ??? I will also need to decipher TTRO TEMP/23/142 (https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/33273/temp-23-142-18-months) for the construction works to check for conflicts. Does anyone fancy a look?
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/a6sj5hT_xl.png)
I believe this merits a glass of Scotland's finest Cooncil Juice (Tap Water) in celebration.
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There is currently a car parked over the markings, but see for yourself here
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/H28t9pq_xl.jpeg)
The road markings have changed somewhat recently, with the bin bay no longer being in operation. I have annotated the map of the yellow line markings as best I can but I don't know how accurate the map is to begin with. Although it generally looks OK, the start location of the yellow line seems off.
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/I3mJrFp_xl.jpg)
I might have to contact the council directly as the mapping info for parking locations has not been updated since 2021. https://data.edinburghcouncilmaps.info/datasets/b72828db4b1945e4adfab6ba9883147b_11/explore
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It used to be a small area for some kind of street bin but it is on yellow line.
We'd to see the traffic order to see if the given contravention is valid.
There is a yellow line map as below - can you work out if that yellow line is the same as street as maybe the bay should be longer.
(https://i.ibb.co/b5DMbjjF/Screenshot-2025-11-16-at-15-46-55.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/mFCx7BKv/Screenshot-2025-11-16-at-15-46-19.png)
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This GSV view of 2016 shows the purpose of the faded and partly worn-away yellow text : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6d638XiWXosCZdKK8
Oddly, you've been served a PCN for not parking correctly in the bay, rather being on the yellow line. Clearly part of your car is in the parking bay, (but not much !). Penalty is £100, so if the penalty for a yellow line contravention is higher the CEO has done you a slight favour. There are no signs for the yellow line which makes me thing this street is within a CPZ. A short investigation shows you are in CPZ 4, but Edinburgh Council's website won't tell me what the controlled hours are ! However, this is irrelevant as the PCN is for not parking within the bay.
This GSV view of 2022 shows the bay markings: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/k8xTAHbMoSt7QnPM7
So how clear are they now ? You haven't shown us a photo of the bay itself
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(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/4epq93i_xl.jpeg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/t7plETg_xl.jpeg)
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Post the PCNs.
Could be a continuous contravention. Normally in England you'd get a higher level yellow line PCN if wheels on line but I think contraventions in Scotland may be all one level.
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I parked in a permit holders bay got out of the drivers side door to check I was in the space. I was satisfied by the faded markings (you should see the state of road markings / roads in general around here) and I left the car for a week.
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/ZNWfW0S_xl.jpeg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/xkO1fQc_xl.jpeg)
During this time I recieved 2 PCNs on the 8th and the 9th for not parking within the bay markings, which have been badly repainted sometime ago and then patched over without being reinstated.
Questions:
- Is it important which pcn i takle first i.e. have the 2nd PCN recinded as a double penalty for 1 continuous infringement before takling the first one.
- A previous thread suggests I need not be parked wholy in a bay, but could I be done for parking on a yellow line instead?
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/edinburgh-24-not-parked-correctly-within-the-markings-of-the-parking-bay-leaming/msg2770/#msg2770 - Have I been a numpty, or can I reasonably challenge on the basis of road markings not being clear.