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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: johndoe29 on November 07, 2025, 12:01:12 pm
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What do you mean tell us more the vehicle was sold by me in may 2025
Yes i sold this vehicle in may.
I owned it since dec 22 - end of feb 2025
I moved house in nov 2022
So you moved house in November 2022, and then bought the car in December 2022. You then kept the car until the end of February 2025. But you say above that the vehicle was sold in May 2025, three months later, so can you see the problem we're having trying to help you ?
According to the bailiff letter, the PCN was served on 21st November 2023, 11 months after you bought the car. Yet you seem to have not received the PCN, and subsequent statutory enforcement documents.
Most cases we see like this, is because the V5C address was not updated, so the PCN and subsequent documents went to the old address where they were not forwarded on. Basically, you need to help us by explaining why you didn't get the PCN and later documents. There would have been three of these documents, (1) the PCN, (2) the Charge Certificate, and (3) the Order for Recovery. It stretches credibility that Royal Mail have lost all three of them.
There is a website specialising in bailiff matters, so it might be beneficial to contact them, (its run by a nice lady called Sheila). They can assist you with preparing an Out-of-Time Staututory Declaration, or a Witness statement). Which one depends on the legislation the PCN was served under.
www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
With the bailiff letter dated April 2025, they could be preparing to seize goods to pay the £484 they are demanding. They can seize your current car too. I know it sounds awful, but it may well be best to pay the bailiffs, but see what 'bailiffadviceonline' say, first.
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What do you mean tell us more the vehicle was sold by me in may 2025
Yes i sold this vehicle in may.
I owned it since dec 22 - end of feb 2025
I moved house in nov 2022
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Thanks the Reg is re72byp
I looked in Richmond's web page for a PCN, and it comes up 'no match found'. This is probably because it has been passed on to bailiffs some time ago.
You need to find out what the PCN was served for, (the alleged contravention).
I see you have posted up several threads all about different PCNs. I looked up your V5C and it was last updated on 17th May 2025. The PCNs are all before this, so tell us more.
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Thanks the Reg is re72byp
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"havent spoke to anyone about this yet and sortve brushed under carpet."
It's never a good idea to ignore stuff like this. Their letter is dated 20th April 2025, so I am quite surprised the bailiffs haven't been round to seize your car or goods. The original contravention is dated 21st NOvember 2023, so it's now 2 years down the line. If the bailiffs come round and seize goods then they will charge more money again.
Here are the statutory fees they can impose: -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/1/schedule
If you didn't receive any of the statutory enforcement documents, then I suggest you go and look at your V5C Registration Certificate for the car and check the address on it. The most common reason for people posting on here who have bailiff letters is their failure to keep their V5C up-to-date.
The only avenue now available to you to try to get the process reverted to the PCN stage is to submit an Out-of-Time Statutory Declaration, or Witness Statement. You have redacted the car registration, so can you please tell us what it is so we can go and look to see what the PCN was issued for, as this decides which declaration to submit.
Be in no doubt that to get out of the situation in which you have found yourself is very difficult and may be impossible, but before we can assess that, we need to know more about why you have not received any of the statutory enforcement documents, starting with the PCN.
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This is genuinely the only letter i have realted to this case have already had issues with not recieving orginals.
whats my best plan of action.
havent spoke to anyone about this yet and sortve brushed under carpet.
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many thanks
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