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Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on December 12, 2025, 05:04:13 pm
All you now have is proof that it was not delivered. If you insist on using snail mail then all you need to do is send it first class and get a free Proof of Posting receipt from any post office.

If they have emailed you, then you have a return email address for them. Send the LoC as a PDF attachment in an email. As long as it is not bounced immediately, then it is served. It easy to check whether an email address SMTP server accepts email.

Thanks.

I did attach a PDF copy to the email that I sent to their DPO who is located in Birmingham.

Their email replies do acknowledge receipt of the LoC.
So all is good so far.

My last post was really only for other users to be aware that posted mail is not guaranteed to be delivered to their registered office.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: InterCity125 on December 12, 2025, 04:59:52 pm
But haven't they already sent an email saying they need more time to respond to the LoC?

Something doesn't stack up?
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on December 12, 2025, 04:37:24 pm
All you now have is proof that it was not delivered. If you insist on using snail mail then all you need to do is send it first class and get a free Proof of Posting receipt from any post office.

If they have emailed you, then you have a return email address for them. Send the LoC as a PDF attachment in an email. As long as it is not bounced immediately, then it is served. It easy to check whether an email address SMTP server accepts email.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on December 12, 2025, 03:37:16 pm
surprisingly, my LoC ( dated and posted on 14/11/2025) addressed to the registered office of Smart Parking has been returned to me.

Royal Mail have marked it as "ADDRESS INACCESSIBLE".

Smart Parking LTD
5 South Inch Business Centre
Shore Road
Perth
PH2 8BW

Probably better to post copies of future correspondence to the Birmingham address.
Unit 43 Elmdon Trading Estate, Bickenhill Lane, Birmingham, B37 7HE
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on December 05, 2025, 03:44:00 pm
I agree. Give them a reasonable extension to 22nd December. However, send them a response as follows:

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Dear Sir or Madam,

I acknowledge your email of 5 December.

For the avoidance of doubt, cancellation of the PCNs does not resolve the data protection issues raised in my Letter of Claim dated 14 November 2025. Those relate to your unlawful acquisition and processing of my DVLA data and ANPR surveillance of an adopted public highway, and to my claim for compensation under UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018.

In the spirit of reasonableness, I will allow your requested extension and agree that you may have until 22 December 2025 to provide a full substantive response to my Letter of Claim, addressing all remedies sought, including compensation. This is a final deadline.

If I do not receive a satisfactory response by close of business on 22 December 2025, I will issue a claim in the County Court without further notice, and I will rely on your delay and failure to engage properly with the Pre-Action Protocol when the court considers conduct and costs.

Yours faithfully,

[Name]



Many thanks.

Email response sent a short while ago.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on December 05, 2025, 02:53:44 pm
I agree. Give them a reasonable extension to 22nd December. However, send them a response as follows:

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Dear Sir or Madam,

I acknowledge your email of 5 December.

For the avoidance of doubt, cancellation of the PCNs does not resolve the data protection issues raised in my Letter of Claim dated 14 November 2025. Those relate to your unlawful acquisition and processing of my DVLA data and ANPR surveillance of an adopted public highway, and to my claim for compensation under UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018.

In the spirit of reasonableness, I will allow your requested extension and agree that you may have until 22 December 2025 to provide a full substantive response to my Letter of Claim, addressing all remedies sought, including compensation. This is a final deadline.

If I do not receive a satisfactory response by close of business on 22 December 2025, I will issue a claim in the County Court without further notice, and I will rely on your delay and failure to engage properly with the Pre-Action Protocol when the court considers conduct and costs.

Yours faithfully,

[Name]

This confirms that PCN cancellation ≠ claim resolved. Locks them to a fixed date of 22 December. Makes it crystal clear you’ve been more than reasonable (original 14 days + extension + their own requested extension) and puts you in a strong position to issue a claim on/after 23 December without any further correspondence.

If so, in the spirit of being reasonable you could say you'll give them until 30 days from then, which would be the standard period for responding to a LoC.

The “30 days to respond” comes from the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, which only applies where a business is pursuing an individual for a debt. That protocol is for creditors chasing individuals for consumer debts, and it tells the CREDITOR to give the DEBTOR 30 days to respond before issuing.

This LoC is from an LiP to a business for a breach of the DPA and is covered by the media/data protection pre-action guidance, which doesn’t lay down a 30-day minimum – it just says the defendant must be given a “reasonable” opportunity to respond. In practice, for a straightforward DPA claim by a LiP, 14 days is widely treated as a reasonable period for a Letter of Claim, especially where the defendant already has all the relevant information (as Smart do here) and has already had sight of the complaint. Anything beyond that – like the extension you're giving them – is the claimant being more than reasonable, not a requirement of the rules.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: InterCity125 on December 05, 2025, 12:18:11 pm
I agree with above - give them until Dec 22nd - it shows that you are being 'reasonable.'

Maybe bung them an email allowing them the extra time "due to the serious nature of your company's behaviour in this matter."

Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on December 05, 2025, 10:06:22 am
Did you send the LoC on 14th November?

If so, in the spirit of being reasonable you could say you'll give them until 30 days from then, which would be the standard period for responding to a LoC.

Another tactic could be to give them until 22nd but make clear that's a final deadline. One benefit of that is that if you still don't get a satisfactory response, you can show to the court that you have made every endeavour to be reasonable and avoid court, and even allowed them several time extensions to find a solution.

The other alternative is to say they've had their chance and launch a claim. This puts them under time pressure, but does potentially give them the opportunity to argue that they were trying to resolve the matter but you issued a claim before they could.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on December 05, 2025, 08:30:32 am
What is my next step?

Smart parking emailed this morning, it just seems to be a delaying tactic.
I generously gave them an extension which expired today to respond.

 Dear Sir/Madam,

As per our email below, we are writing to inform you that there will be a delay in the response from Smart Parking.

After reviewing in detail and the content of the letter, we want to ensure that we can provide the individual with a full and clear response, to enable us to do so, further time is needed therefore, please be advised that we will respond back to you no later than the 22nd December.

Apologies about any inconvenience.

Yours Sincerely

Smart Parking

Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on December 01, 2025, 03:44:37 pm
That faint sound you can hear in the background is panicking.
:D  :D  :D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on December 01, 2025, 03:43:59 pm
Smart Parking Ltd.
5 South Inch Business Centre, Shore Road, Perth, Perth And Kinross, PH2 8BW

LETTER OF CLAIM

Data Protection Act 2018 / UK GDPR – Unlawful obtaining and processing of personal data

Dear Sir or Madam,

I write to give you formal notice under the Pre-Action Protocol for Media and Data Protection Claims of my intention to bring proceedings against Smart Parking Ltd for breaches of the Data Protection Act 2018 and the UK General Data Protection Regulation (“UK GDPR”).

1. Background
You have twice obtained my personal data from the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and issued Parking Charge Notices in respect of a vehicle parked on XXXXXXXXX which is an adopted public highway maintained by XXXXXX City Council. The land is not private, is not a car park, and is therefore not “relevant land” for the purposes of Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

Your ANPR camera merely captured my vehicle driving on a public road. There is no lawful basis for you to have requested or processed my keeper data, nor to have asserted the existence of any contract, parking contravention, or debt.

2. Breaches alleged
Smart Parking Ltd has:
• obtained my DVLA keeper data without reasonable cause, in breach of the DVLA KADOE contract;
• processed and retained that data without any lawful basis under Article 6(1) UK GDPR;
• misrepresented a public highway as “private land” to justify that processing; and
• caused distress, wasted time and anxiety in having to rebut baseless notices and gather council evidence.

These acts amount to infringements of the UK GDPR, including Articles 5(1)(a)–(c) (lawfulness, fairness, purpose limitation and data minimisation) and Article 6(1) (lawful basis). Under section 168 Data Protection Act 2018, I am therefore entitled to compensation for both material and non-material damage arising from those infringements.

Your conduct constitutes a clear breach of the Data Protection Act 2018 §.168(1) and UK GDPR Articles 5(1)(a)–(c) and 6(1).

3. Required remedies
I require:
1. A written admission and formal apology for the unlawful acquisition and processing of my data;
2. Immediate deletion of all personal data obtained in relation to both PCNs and confirmation that it has not been shared with any third party;
3. A compensatory payment of £500 for each unlawful data acquisition, totalling £1,000, reflecting distress, wasted time and aggravating circumstances.
4. Future conduct
If you fail to provide a satisfactory response within 14 days of this letter, I will file a claim in the County Court for damages under the Data Protection Act 2018 §.168 and costs pursuant to CPR 27.14(2)(g).

If Smart Parking Ltd continues to process or disclose my personal data in relation to these incidents, including but not limited to disclosure to any third-party debt collection agency, or if you fail to delete and confirm deletion of my data within 14 days of this letter, I will treat that conduct as a continuing and aggravated breach. In those circumstances I will increase the compensation sought to reflect aggravated distress, additional loss of time, and any further misuse of my data, and I reserve the right to seek an uplifted sum in court. For clarity, the initial compensation sought in this letter is £1,000; continued or repeated unlawful processing and/or onward disclosure will substantially increase the quantum claimed.

I require all correspondence to be sent to the address shown above and a substantive reply by 1/12/2025.

Yours faithfully,
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on December 01, 2025, 03:43:45 pm
That faint sound you can hear in the background is panicking.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: InterCity125 on December 01, 2025, 03:41:39 pm
we have cancelled your parking charges as a gesture of goodwill


Yes, right, for parking on a public road!
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on December 01, 2025, 03:35:19 pm
I have today received a response to my letter of claim LOC.

Dear Sir
Thank you for your email dated 14th November with the letter enclosed detailing the query.  We are grateful for you bringing the matter to our attention and we are considering the detail and making enquiries. Whilst we await the outcome of those enquiries, we note your required remedies, and at this stage can confirm that we have cancelled your parking charges as a gesture of goodwill and will cease processing your personal data further regarding this matter other than to engage in this correspondence. Once we have completed our investigation we will consider the requests you have made and revert to you.
 
We trust given the steps we have taken, that you will enable us to complete our enquiries and revert to you before you take the action you propose.  We anticipate being able to respond to you within 3-5 working days.   
 
Yours sincerely
Smart Parking
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on November 14, 2025, 12:21:44 pm
Sorry... that was an old one. Their current registered address is:

5 South Inch Business Centre
Shore Road
Perth
PH2 8BW

My bad!
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on November 14, 2025, 11:00:58 am
Smart Parking Ltd
Legal Department
Elphinstone House
65 West Regent Street
Glasgow G2 2AF
Out of interest where did you find this address?
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on November 14, 2025, 10:36:11 am
Their reply is not a response to your Letter of Claim. It is a stock “PCN cancelled” template and does not address:
• the unlawful data acquisition
• the unlawful ANPR surveillance of a public road
• the absence of any lawful basis under UK GDPR
• your demand for deletion
• your demand for compensation
• your notice that further processing/aggravation will increase quantum
• your request for an apology
• your pre-action status

Under the Pre-Action Protocol for Media & Data Protection Claims, this is not a compliant response. It is as if they ignored the LoC entirely.

If you still want to proceed, the correct next step is a Second and Final Notice giving them one last opportunity to engage before you issue the claim. This protects you procedurally and shows the court that you acted reasonably and they ignored a clear LoC.

Send the following, again by post with proof of posting and email:

Quote
BY EMAIL AND POST

Smart Parking Ltd
Legal Department
Elphinstone House
65 West Regent Street
Glasgow G2 2AF

SECOND AND FINAL NOTICE – FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH LETTER OF CLAIM

Data Protection Act 2018 / UK GDPR

Dear Sir or Madam,

I refer to my Letter of Claim dated [insert date], issued under the Pre-Action Protocol for Media and Data Protection Claims.
Your only reply has been a generic template confirming cancellation of a Parking Charge. This is not a response to the Letter of Claim. It does not address:
• your unlawful acquisition of my DVLA data without reasonable cause;
• your unlawful processing of my personal data in breach of UK GDPR Articles 5 and 6;
• the fact that your ANPR camera is harvesting data from an adopted public highway;
• my request for a written apology;
• my demand for £1,000 compensation under DPA 2018 s.168 for non-material damage arising from those UK GDPR infringements;
• my request for confirmation of erasure and non-disclosure; or
• the matters required of you under the Protocol.

The cancellation of the Parking Charge Notices does not resolve the data protection breaches. The underlying unlawful processing remains, as does your continued retention of my personal data.

Required within 7 days
You must provide a substantive response to all points in the original Letter of Claim, including:
1. A formal apology;
2. Confirmation of erasure and cessation of all processing;
3. Confirmation that my personal data has not been disclosed to any third party;
4. Payment of £1,000 compensation; or
5. Your grounds for disputing liability.

If you fail to provide a full response within 7 days of this letter, I will issue a claim in the County Court without further notice, relying on your non-compliance with the Protocol when dealing with costs.

For the avoidance of doubt: any further processing or disclosure of my data, including to any debt collection agent, will be treated as an aggravated continuing breach and will increase the quantum claimed.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 14, 2025, 09:48:10 am
Received a notice that PCN cancelled

PCN (https://i.ibb.co/1GCCQZxS/cancelled-pcn1.jpg)
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 11, 2025, 08:04:49 pm
I think you'd be fine to just send one, by post.

If you are ever sending duplicate correspondence different places, it's sensible to make clear on each that you have also sent a copy by email/post as applicable.

Okay, sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on November 11, 2025, 07:25:55 pm
I think you'd be fine to just send one, by post.

If you are ever sending duplicate correspondence different places, it's sensible to make clear on each that you have also sent a copy by email/post as applicable.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 11, 2025, 07:18:00 pm

I have found the contact details for their data protection officer.
So, I will send the LoC via first class post with a proof of posting AND I will also send a PDF copy to the designated officer Mrs Amanda Lynock  - dpo@smartparking.com

Data controller
Smart Parking Ltd
Address
5 South Inch Business Centre
Shore Road
Perth
Perth And Kinross
PH2 8BW
Other names
TOWN AND CITY PARKING
Data Protection Officer
Mrs Amanda Lynock
Smart Parking Ltd
Unit 43, Elmdon Trading Estate
Bickenhill Lane
Birmingham
B37 7HE
dpo@smartparking.com
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on November 11, 2025, 06:50:13 pm
You are correct. My bad. For debt claims (PAPDC), the Letter of Claim “should be sent by post”. However, you may also send it by email. You should use email instead, only if the debtor has explicitly asked you not to post and given alternative contact details. Prior email correspondence alone isn’t enough to skip the post.

When you post, do not use recorded or signed for delivery. Send it first class and get a free certificate (proof of posting) from any post office. It will then be deemed as having been served within two working days and is sufficient evidence under the Interpretation Act 1978.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on November 11, 2025, 05:58:33 pm
I had in the back of my mind somewhere that LoC should be sent by post, but thinking again, I'm not sure how it came to be in the back of my mind  ;D
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on November 11, 2025, 05:13:49 pm
You don't post anything by mail, especially not signed for. At best, that would give you proof of non-delivery.

Any correspondence should be sent as a PDF attachment to an email. That way you have instantaneous service and proof of sending.

You can do some searching for any valid email address for (not so) Smart Parking.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on November 11, 2025, 09:23:31 am
I wouldn't put it past them to still do that.

By acting promptly, the OP has put Smart under some time pressure, and also shown that he is taking proactive steps to minimise/stop the misuse of his personal data, as one acting in good faith might be expected to.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: InterCity125 on November 11, 2025, 08:28:28 am
Would have been interesting to let this one run a bit to see if they further breached Data Protection by supplying your info to a third party debt collector?
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on November 11, 2025, 06:48:12 am
I don't think you need to, they should be aware of what correspondence they have received from you.

I was asking so that we know what has been sent by whom.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 11, 2025, 03:56:52 am


I did send appeals for all 3, but there has been no response to date.


Should I perhaps add a line at the start of the Letter of Claim to indicate/say that the LoC supersedes any and all previous communication?
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on November 10, 2025, 10:35:24 pm
Do I post the copy of the letter of claim or scan it and send it via their website?
If you're sending a LoC I'd do so by post. Regular first class obtaining a certificate of posting from a post office.

There are 2 postal addresses for them. One is a PO box the other is an address on a trading estate.
If I were suing a company, my starting point would usually be their registered address as per Companies House, which in Smart's case would appear to be the address up in Perth, Scotland. Although as far as I can tell their main operations premises is the trading estate in Birmingham.

You mentioned in a previous reply the submission of appeal(s). Did you send appeals for any of them?
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 10, 2025, 10:02:50 pm
Q.
Do I post the copy of the letter of claim or scan it and send it via their website?

There are 2 postal addresses for them. One is a PO box the other is an address on a trading estate.
If I posted the LOC as a signed for delivery, I don't believe either would be actually signed for.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on November 01, 2025, 09:43:08 pm
If they have not lawful reason to request your data from the DVLA, then they have breached your GDPR. Do a search on your rights for GDR breach.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 01, 2025, 09:18:19 pm
If you are sure that the location is not relevant land and is indeed adopted, I wouldn't bother with trying to appeal this. I would go straight to a Letter of Claim (LoC) against (not so) Smart Parking for compensation under the Data Protection Act 2018 §186. You could put it like this:

Quote
LETTER OF CLAIM


WoW  - Really ??

Thank you
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: b789 on November 01, 2025, 08:51:44 pm
If you are sure that the location is not relevant land and is indeed adopted, I wouldn't bother with trying to appeal this. I would go straight to a Letter of Claim (LoC) against (not so) Smart Parking for compensation under the Data Protection Act 2018 §186. You could put it like this:

Quote
LETTER OF CLAIM

Data Protection Act 2018 / UK GDPR – Unlawful obtaining and processing of personal data

Dear Sir or Madam,

I write to give you formal notice under the Pre-Action Protocol for Media and Data Protection Claims of my intention to bring proceedings against Smart Parking Ltd for breaches of the Data Protection Act 2018 and the UK General Data Protection Regulation (“UK GDPR”).

1. Background
You have twice obtained my personal data from the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and issued Parking Charge Notices in respect of a vehicle parked on Kirpal Road, Portsmouth, which is an adopted public highway maintained by Portsmouth City Council. The land is not private, is not a car park, and is therefore not “relevant land” for the purposes of Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

Your ANPR camera merely captured my vehicle driving on a public road. There is no lawful basis for you to have requested or processed my keeper data, nor to have asserted the existence of any contract, parking contravention, or debt.

2. Breaches alleged
Smart Parking Ltd has:
• obtained my DVLA keeper data without reasonable cause, in breach of the DVLA KADOE contract;
• processed and retained that data without any lawful basis under Article 6(1) UK GDPR;
• misrepresented a public highway as “private land” to justify that processing; and
• caused distress, wasted time and anxiety in having to rebut baseless notices and gather council evidence.

These acts amount to infringements of the UK GDPR, including Articles 5(1)(a)–(c) (lawfulness, fairness, purpose limitation and data minimisation) and Article 6(1) (lawful basis). Under section 168 Data Protection Act 2018, I am therefore entitled to compensation for both material and non-material damage arising from those infringements.

Your conduct constitutes a clear breach of the Data Protection Act 2018 §.168(1) and UK GDPR Articles 5(1)(a)–(c) and 6(1).

3. Required remedies
I require:
1. A written admission and formal apology for the unlawful acquisition and processing of my data;
2. Immediate deletion of all personal data obtained in relation to both PCNs and confirmation that it has not been shared with any third party;
3. A compensatory payment of £500 for each unlawful data acquisition, totalling £1,000, reflecting distress, wasted time and aggravating circumstances.

4. Future conduct
If you fail to provide a satisfactory response within 14 days of this letter, I will file a claim in the County Court for damages under the Data Protection Act 2018 §.168 and costs pursuant to CPR 27.14(2)(g).

If Smart Parking Ltd continues to process or disclose my personal data in relation to these incidents, including but not limited to disclosure to any third-party debt collection agency, or if you fail to delete and confirm deletion of my data within 14 days of this letter, I will treat that conduct as a continuing and aggravated breach. In those circumstances I will increase the compensation sought to reflect aggravated distress, additional loss of time, and any further misuse of my data, and I reserve the right to seek an uplifted sum in court. For clarity, the initial compensation sought in this letter is £1,000; continued or repeated unlawful processing and/or onward disclosure will substantially increase the quantum claimed.

I require all correspondence to be sent to the address shown above and a substantive reply by [insert date 14 days from issue].

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: jfollows on November 01, 2025, 08:20:51 pm
Every one of the images is the same to me.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 01, 2025, 08:10:27 pm
Thanks for the help.

It's taken me a while but I've have managed to figure out how to scan, upload and edit !!

https://ibb.co/qMmvGGQ6 (https://ibb.co/qMmvGGQ6)

https://ibb.co/wNvqrbSp (https://ibb.co/wNvqrbSp)

https://ibb.co/y1htP7q (https://ibb.co/y1htP7q)

https://ibb.co/xKXPqvsy (https://ibb.co/xKXPqvsy)

https://ibb.co/dJxQzCpL (https://ibb.co/dJxQzCpL)

https://ibb.co/wNJ9QL53 (https://ibb.co/wNJ9QL53)

I have some emails from Portsmouth City Council confirming that the road is adopted and parking tickets/charges are not enforceable 
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: InterCity125 on November 01, 2025, 06:30:56 pm
https://ibb.co/yngm0zvL (https://ibb.co/yngm0zvL)

https://ibb.co/dwFbqVhz (https://ibb.co/dwFbqVhz)

I now have 3 PCN's from Smart Parking

You probably need to post all three PCN's showing both sides.

There's a lot of people on this forum who can help you but you need to show as much evidence as possible.

If, what you have indicated so far is true, Smart have been accessing your personal data from the DVLA for no reason whatsoever. This is quite serious as they effectively have access all Keeper details of UK registered motor vehicles.

If Smart were to pursue this claim then they'd probably divulge your personal data to a third party debt collector who will hound you relentlessly. Of course, we know that debt collectors are powerless and harmless parasites but Joe Public does not - hence why we do what we do.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DWMB2 on November 01, 2025, 12:56:54 pm
We need to see the whole of the PCNs, not just a cropped expert from one.

Aside from any appeals (the one you have submitted for the first arguably doesn't actually appeal anything, as it doesn't say why no money is owed), I'd be raising the matter with the local council, advising them that Smart Parking are issuing PCNs to people parking on the public highway and asking them to intervene.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 01, 2025, 12:08:00 pm
https://ibb.co/yngm0zvL (https://ibb.co/yngm0zvL)

https://ibb.co/dwFbqVhz (https://ibb.co/dwFbqVhz)

I now have 3 PCN's from Smart Parking
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: InterCity125 on November 01, 2025, 10:58:56 am
Better to post a picture of the PCN with personal info redacted. Wait for advice before replying to Not So Samrt.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 01, 2025, 10:04:30 am
My online response to the PCN.

Have I made any errors?


-----Your Message-----
I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement, and there will be no admission as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn.

Since your Parking Charge Notice is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close-up photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date, as well as your images of the vehicle showing exactly where it was parked.

Please provide a detailed explanation of the reason for the Parking Charge Notice, because your notice does not explain it.





Please note that your ANPR camera only shows my vehicle on the public highway.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 01, 2025, 09:30:14 am
The wording on the PCN is as follows.

The parking charge has been issued to your vehicle *******, because between the period 22:17 (08/10/2025) to 09:47 (09/10/2025) it was parked in a manner whereby the driver became liable for a parking charge at Salterns Place -31-36 Kirpal Road - Portsmouth - PO3 6FA for 02A -
Parking without the correct authorisation (ANPR). This si supported by camera images of the vehicle entering and exiting the car park. The signage which is clearly displayed at the entrance to and throughout the car park, states that this is private land and the car park is managed by Smart Parking Ltd. In accordance with the terms and conditions set out in signage, the parking charge is now payable to Smart Parking Ltd. (as the Creditor).

As we do not know the driver's name or current address, you the vehicle's keeper are now invited to either:

1. Pay the charge, or
2. If you were not the driver at the time of the event, please provide us with the driver's full name and current postal address using the contact details below and pass the charge to them. (Once this information is received, we will pursue the driver)
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on November 01, 2025, 08:54:00 am
Kirpal Road, Portsmouth. PO3 6FA
Specifically a side road adjoining Marina Grove


https://www.findmystreet.co.uk/map?usrn=30588800 (https://www.findmystreet.co.uk/map?usrn=30588800)

Kirpal Road - Access Road side of  Number 30, leading to Marina Grove, Portsmouth
Classification: Neither M, A, B or C
Responsibility: Maintainable at public expense, Portsmouth
Street State: Open

Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: InterCity125 on November 01, 2025, 08:04:37 am
What's the address of the road?
Title: Smart Parking PCN for parking on adopted road
Post by: DeadParrot on October 31, 2025, 11:42:16 pm
Hi Everyone. :)

First of all a great site and full of helpful information.

First post so be kind !

My issue - Have been sent 2 PCN's from Smart Parking for parking a vehicle on a nearby road that has been fully adopted by the Local Authority (Portsmouth City Council).
Smart Parking have installed an ANPR camera on the edge of forecourt parking spaces, which I accept as being private property, BUT ......

The camera is capturing my vehicle entering and then some hours later exiting the public road.
It does not show my vehicle parked in any private spaces, only entering and leaving the public road.
My car was parked on the public road.
Smart parking are describing the whole road as a "Private Car Park" this is not correct.
I have responded to both PCN's without naming the driver, pointing out that it is a public road. Asking them to cancel their invoices.

Prior to parking in this location I contacted my local councillor and the highways department of the city council to have them confirm that it is a public highway. The council even sent screen captured map images indicating which roads were adopted and where I could park without fear of a PCN.

Do I just sit and wait for them to review the appeals or should I do more?
Any advice will be gladly received.