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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: Amanda23 on October 29, 2025, 03:28:50 pm

Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: Amanda23 on January 05, 2026, 04:06:50 pm
@jfollows thank you. I think I just wanted to get a bit of reassurance that I'm still in a strong position as I've never done anything like this before and I'm a panicker! Thank you for your advice - I'll continue to sit tight.

Thanks
Amanda
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: jfollows on January 05, 2026, 03:51:14 pm
Unless your time is more valuable to you, no, we do not recommend settling.
DCB Legal will discontinue before paying the court fee. You were told that you won’t be paying a penny.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: Amanda23 on January 05, 2026, 03:45:36 pm
Hi,

I just wanted to check in on this and get some more advice. I followed the instructions and emailed the exact wording as per @b789 (thanks again for all your help!)

I didn't hear anything for a while but have since received this email which I have attached. I've attached it on this link but please let me know if it doesn't work. https://ibb.co/7JG2cqhH

They haven't attached any of the documents requested in their email reply as they deem them to be not relevant to the dispute. They have also offered to settle the case if I pay £60 as opposed to the £170 in dispute.

I just wondered if you'd recommend settling at this point and avoid it going to court or if this suggests their on the back foot and I should continue to hold out.

Thanks again for your help1 

Thanks
Amanda
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: Amanda23 on November 07, 2025, 04:26:30 pm
@InterCity125 thank you - the help from you guys on here is really appreciated!
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: InterCity125 on November 07, 2025, 04:06:17 pm
The NtK is out of time for keeper liability.

PoFA requires that the NtK is served to you within 14 days (subtract two days for postage) so they have to send it no later than 12 days starting the day after the alleged contravention.

Don't worry, this case won't go far. They are just shaking the gullible tree to see what falls off.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: Amanda23 on November 07, 2025, 03:41:53 pm
Thank you @b789! Apologies, I missed the notification that I'd had a reply. I didn't take a screen shot of the appeal (kicking myself now!) - just a screenshot of the confirmation that the appeal had been received and that I would be sent the decision soon. Although I never actually received anything from them to say what the outcome was. I didn't appeal to POPLA - should I have? Is this something I should do now?

I'm sure I didn't identify the driver - although I can't remember the actual wording so I'm a bit concerned about this. It's over two years ago but I'm sure I just referenced the inappropriate length of time they'd taken to issue the PCN. Am I able to request the appeal from Smart Parking under GDPR? Or wouldn't you recommend this?

That's good to know that the NtK isn't PoFA compliant. Out of interest, where does it fail? I was going to say so I know for future reference but I'm hoping this doesn't happen to me again!

Thanks again for all your help, I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: b789 on October 30, 2025, 02:13:42 pm
Be aware that DCBL and DCB Legal are not the same company, even though they are both art of the "Direct" group of companies. DCBL are powerless and useless debt collectors. DCB Legal is a bulk litigation firm.

Do you have a copy of the exact wording yo used in your initial appeal? Did you appeal to POPLA?

You have not identified the driver and you say it was not you. In which case, they have no case against you as the Keeper. Their Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not PoFA compliant which means thy can only pursue the driver, who they have no idea who that is and you are not legally obliged to tell an unregulated private parking firm.

Not that is going to stop them issuing the claim. You won't be paying a penny over this, just follow the advice and tell us about any correspondence you receive from now on.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: Amanda23 on October 30, 2025, 11:47:07 am
https://ibb.co/VpP1Fhyz

https://ibb.co/jZQWYQ38

I followed the instructions and uploaded the scans of the docs to imgbb so hopefully that works!
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: Amanda23 on October 30, 2025, 11:32:38 am
Hi,

Thank you so much for your help. Definitely feeling less panicked about it now! I will read up on the info in the link and will send the email to dcbl as per @b789 this weekend.

I have attached scans of the original PCN and letter of claim with my details redacted in case it's relevant.

Thanks again for your assistance, I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: b789 on October 29, 2025, 04:05:31 pm
If you've received a Letter of Claim (LoC) from DCB Legal for an unpaid PCN from (not so) Smart Parking, irrespective of whether the driver has been identified or not is VERY GOOD news for you. I say this because, when they issue the claim, and they will, you will defend it with the defence we give you here and as long as you follow the advice for each step of the way in the process, it will, with greater than 99.9% certainty, be either struck out or discontinued.

Without even seeing the LoC from DCB Legal, you should respond to it by email with the following to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself:

Quote
Subject: Response to your Letter of Claim Ref: [reference number]

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none. That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish the very document you purport to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please provide:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012 liability.

2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between your client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site plan showing the sign locations.

3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.

4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate.

5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes VAT.


I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own obligation under paragraph 6(b).

If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).

Until your client complies and provides the requested material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the above.

Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will only respond by email or post.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: InterCity125 on October 29, 2025, 03:46:38 pm
You'll need to post up the original PCN redacting your personal details.
Title: Re: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: jfollows on October 29, 2025, 03:37:50 pm
Please read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/

Start a new topic - yes, right thing to do.
Read up first - yes, please do.
Title: Smart Parking PCN and now received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim
Post by: Amanda23 on October 29, 2025, 03:28:50 pm
Hi,

Apologies, I'm unsure if I'm supposed to start a new topic or reply to an existing one but I need some help!

I received a PCN dated 12/09/23 for a parking offence on 12/08/23 from Smart Parking Limited for going 16 mins over on a 4 hour parking session as my friend stepped on a wasps nest and two of us got several stings (I know it sounds like I'm making it up but I'm not - I ended up going to the doctors a couple of weeks later as they were all infected!) The letter arrived on 27/09/23 so around 6 weeks after the 'offence' and 3 weeks after it was dated. This meant I was outside the 14 days to pay the reduced fine. I appealed online (and have confirmation it was submitted) but didn't confirm I was the driver, I just said that it had been sent an unreasonable amount of time after the offence. I never heard anything further from Smart Parking regarding the appeal.

I then received several letters from Debt Recovery Plus and a couple from CST Law throughout 2024 - after googling it I ignored them. It went quiet until August this year when I received a noticed of debt recovery from dcbl (Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd) and then another in September - again, I ignored them.

On 21st October I received a 'Letter of Claim' from dcb legal ltd (Civil and Commercial Litigation Solicitors) I'm loathed to pay the £170 as my friend was actually driving (and paid for the parking on her app) and I might have been inclined to pay the reduced fee of £60 for ease but wasn't given the opportunity given how late they sent the letter. I've also read something along the lines of them having to issue the fine within 14 days? The letter states that if I don't pay the £170 it's "likely to result in a claim being issued without further notice" so I'm wondering if now's the time to take action and I need to pay it? Or if there is another course of action I can take? A google search brings up things about responding to the solicitor and issuing a Subject Access Request to Smart Parking but I wanted to get some advice before I take any action.

Again, apologies if there's a thread I should have read before writing this. The panic is starting set it!

Thanks a lot for any help anyone can offer!
Amanda