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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: adam112 on October 28, 2025, 09:22:49 am

Title: Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
Post by: b789 on November 17, 2025, 03:58:47 pm
Where does it say in that boilerplate rejection that you were the driver? Has it not yet clicked that you are dealing with bottom-dwelling scammers whose only aim is to get you to pay them out of ignorance and fear?

Why the hell would you "just pay"? If I sent you an invoice for £100, would you "just pay"it? Of course you wouldn't, so why do you think that the invoice you received from a scammer should be "just paid"?

You will never pay a penny to anyone if you follow the advice you receive here. The Keeper of the vehicle is not liable for any charge. Only the driver would be liable. Unless you have blabbed to them the drivers details, inadvertently or otherwise, they have absolutely no idea who the driver is.

There is no legal obligation on the Keeper to identify the driver to an unregulated private parking firm and you must decline to do so. The burden of proof is on the operator to show that it is pursuing the right party. How do you imagine they could do that if you have declined to identify the driver? They are not allowed to infer or assume.

All you need to do now is move on to the next stage in this scam and appeal to the IAS kangaroo court. The odds of being successful there are slim to none. They are no "independent" and are as corrupt and mendacious as their paymasters as the operator.

The only way this will be concluded is after they try to intimidate you by eventually issuing a county court claim. They will go to the line before giving up because they know that most low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree can be intimidated into paying out of ignorance and fear. They would never let it get as far as a hearing in front of a judge would is likely to give them a spanking in court.

For now, simply submit the following as your IAS appeal:

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I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability for this parking charge and appeal in full.

The parking operator bears the burden of proof. It must establish that a contravention occurred, that a valid contract was formed between the operator and the driver, and that it has lawful authority to operate and issue Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) in its own name. I therefore require the operator to provide the following:

1. This location is a railway station subject to statutory control and is not “relevant land” as defined in Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. As the driver has not been identified, there can be no keeper liability in law. I therefore require the operator to confirm that they are not seeking to rely on PoFA. If they dispute that this is non-relevant land, they must provide strict proof that the land is “relevant land” and that the Notice to Keeper fully complies with the mandatory wording and timelines in Schedule 4 of PoFA. In the absence of full PoFA compliance on relevant land, any attempt to hold the keeper liable is misconceived and must fail.

2. Strict proof of clear, prominent, and adequate signage that was in place on the date in question, at the exact location of the alleged contravention. This must include a detailed site plan showing the placement of each sign and legible images of the signs in situ. The operator must demonstrate that signage was visible, legible, and compliant with the IPC Code of Practice that was valid at the time of the alleged contravention, including requirements relating to font size, positioning, and the communication of key terms.

3. Strict proof of a valid, contemporaneous contract or lease flowing from the landowner that authorises the operator to manage parking, issue PCNs, and pursue legal action in its own name. I refer the operator and the IAS assessor to Section 14 of the PPSCoP (Relationship with Landowner), which clearly sets out mandatory minimum requirements that must be evidenced before any parking charge may be issued on controlled land.

In particular, Section 14.1(a)–(j) requires the operator to have in place written confirmation from the landowner which includes:

• the identity of the landowner,
• a boundary map of the land to be managed,
• applicable byelaws,
• the duration and scope of authority granted,
• detailed parking terms and conditions including any specific permissions or exemptions,
• the means of issuing PCNs,
• responsibility for obtaining planning and advertising consents,
• and the operator’s obligations and appeal procedure under the Code.

These requirements are not optional. They are a condition precedent to issuing a PCN and bringing any associated action. Accordingly, I put the operator to strict proof of compliance with the entirety of Section 14 of the PPSCoP. Any document that contains redactions must not obscure the above conditions. The document must also be dated and signed by identifiable persons, with evidence of their authority to act on behalf of the parties to the agreement. The operator must provide an agreement showing clear authorisation from the landowner for this specific site.

4. Strict proof that the Notice to Keeper complies with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), if the operator is attempting to rely on keeper liability. Any failure to comply with the mandatory wording or timelines in Schedule 4 of PoFA renders keeper liability unenforceable.

5. Strict proof that the NtK was posted in time for it to have been given within the relevant period. The PPSCoP section 8.1.2(d) Note 2 requires that the operator must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)

6. The IAS claims that its assessors are “qualified solicitors or barristers”. Yet there is no way to verify this. Decisions are unsigned, anonymised, and unpublished. There is no transparency, no register of assessors, and no way for a motorist to assess the legal credibility of the individual supposedly adjudicating their appeal. If the person reading this really is legally qualified, they will know that without strict proof of landowner authority (VCS v HMRC [2013] EWCA Civ 186), no claim can succeed. They will also know that clear and prominent signage is a prerequisite for contract formation (ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67), and that keeper liability under PoFA is only available where strict statutory conditions are met.

If the assessor chooses to overlook these legal requirements and accept vague assertions or redacted documents from the operator, that will speak for itself—and lend further weight to the growing concern that this appeals service is neither independent nor genuinely legally qualified.

In short, I dispute this charge in its entirety and require full evidence of compliance with the law, industry codes of practice, and basic contractual principles.
Title: Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
Post by: adam112 on November 17, 2025, 03:18:37 pm
Hi,

I received the following response. I never once indicated I was the driver of the vehicle.

https://imgpile.com/p/XuMEQFL

Where do I go from here? Is it worth just paying?

Title: Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
Post by: adam112 on October 28, 2025, 01:19:47 pm
Great, thanks for your advice! I will keep you posted with the outcome.
Title: Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
Post by: DWMB2 on October 28, 2025, 09:45:52 am
It's not necessarily "unlawful" as such - they're entitled to write to you to seek payment of a parking charge. Whether that means you owe it is another matter. Helpfully, they openly say "Non-PoFA" at the top of the notice, so they're not even trying to hold you liable as the keeper of the vehicle. You can therefore appeal with something on the lines of the below:

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so. Even if you were seeking to do so, Leeds City Station is not relevant land for the purposes of the Act.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled.

Yours,


If appealing online, be careful there are no drop down/tick boxes that cause you to identify who was driving, and keep a close eye on your spam folder for their response. If they do not respond within 28 days, chase them. Them being an IPC member may mean this is a bit of a protracted process, but if you stick to your guns you should eventually prevail.
Title: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
Post by: adam112 on October 28, 2025, 09:22:49 am
Hi, I received the following PCN from UKCPS for no stopping at Leeds Station.

I believe from reading previous posts on this forum that this is unlawful.

How do I best proceed from here?

Thanks

PCN: https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/eup6Wfx_xl.jpg