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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Purple26 on October 26, 2025, 11:30:45 pm
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Just to check, is all of this process basically just to get the case back to the PCN stage? I was under the impression I could still fight it based on how briefly my rear wheels were in the yellow box — it was less than 8 seconds. Or have I actually lost the right to appeal at this stage?
Yes, this will reset to the PCN stage and then you can appeal - or pay at the discount rate - so there is a substantial saving to be made even if you do have to pay.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation — really appreciate it.
Just to check, is all of this process basically just to get the case back to the PCN stage? I was under the impression I could still fight it based on how briefly my rear wheels were in the yellow box — it was less than 8 seconds. Or have I actually lost the right to appeal at this stage?
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You need to follow the instructions in this link >>>
https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/
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When I went back to visit my mum, I found this letter there. I’ve got no idea where the first one ended up though.
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OK, you moved house and didn't get the PCN, but how, then, did you get the Charge Certificate, because it would have been sent to the same address ?
There is a process to get the matter reverted to the PCN stage, but it's 01.04 as I type so tomorrow.
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I recently moved house and was completely unaware of the first letter they sent me — this is the first time I’m seeing any reference to this PCN.
I’ve checked the video on the Waltham Forest website, and basically, I was in the yellow box turning right. Just as I was about to exit, traffic ahead stopped, so my rear wheel stayed inside the box for around 8 seconds before I started moving again.
I’m not sure if there’s much point in fighting this one, but I’d really appreciate your thoughts before deciding whether to pay or appeal.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bSgSix-teVIpTAqsrsdDnAOaOHbBZZQ5/view?usp=drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12HA2odfobUeGERd5DLZU6tER2zoo_n-u/view?usp=drive_link