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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: NTIAEP on October 25, 2025, 05:39:00 pm
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@Incandescent
Thanks for the response and your efforts. Think the odds would be against me at tribunal so will have to chalk this one down as another lesson learnt (or not?).
Regards - NTIAEP
In cases I looked at at London Tribunals, more than one adjudicator refused the appeal, so I think discount is best, but this location still makes me unhappy.
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@Incandescent
Thanks for the response and your efforts. Think the odds would be against me at tribunal so will have to chalk this one down as another lesson learnt (or not?).
Regards - NTIAEP
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We've seen this location before, last year, I think.
I had a look at the appeals at London Tribunals and all were refused bar one which centred on the appellant being the hirer of a vehicle and the hire agreement did not allow transfer of liability to him. All the others centre on the actual NRT sign, although none seem to point out that the text below the sign cannot be read until the driver is committed to the turn, there being no advance warning sign. So this argument could be submitted in representations, but, needless to say, with the full PCN penalty in play.
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Afternoon All
Spoke to soon......and I'm back!!
GSV (https://maps.app.goo.gl/pWiWEYdYGwPAmMZx7)
CCTV Footage (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hncacmy19psk9eqn3hz91/Enfield-PCN-EF99303342_video.mp4?rlkey=ks39ncozwnf0p9uz7l1li9nvb&st=uidhcst6&dl=0)
Redacted PCN (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y15xz9tmja63o2y3obux0/20251022_MF17VHY_PCN_Carterhatch-Lane-no-right-turn_20250915_redacted.pdf?rlkey=0d76ydmhy3wzv5pa2gkysaqih&st=qgohqehi&dl=0)
Completely missed the sign as I was distracted by the person I was picking up on the corner.
Spot any discrepancies with this PCN or begrudgingly just cough up the discounted ransom of £80?
Thanks in advance again.
Best - NTIAEP