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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: dingus on October 22, 2025, 09:22:21 pm

Title: Re: Yellow Box PCN - Walthamstow
Post by: Neil B on October 24, 2025, 01:20:09 pm
I think I've seen the video on the Facebook page. The camera is zoomed in so that when your father stops it doesn't show how far the bus is in front of him or whether it's fully stationary.

It's possible, maybe even likely, an offence was committed but there's no actual evidence on their video.
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But perhaps a better way to say it that no stationary vehicles are in evidence, i.e. none can be seen.
Title: Re: Yellow Box PCN - Walthamstow
Post by: stamfordman on October 23, 2025, 10:27:12 am
I chopped the video for the gif but it goes on longer and shows the bus in a wider shot but you can see the shadow of the bus so I expect that will be enough to refuse an appeal.

Other thought is does the box have a legitimate purpose.

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Title: Re: Yellow Box PCN - Walthamstow
Post by: MrChips on October 23, 2025, 08:49:09 am
I think I've seen the video on the Facebook page. The camera is zoomed in so that when your father stops it doesn't show how far the bus is in front of him or whether it's fully stationary.

It's possible, maybe even likely, an offence was committed but there's no actual evidence on their video.
Title: Re: Yellow Box PCN - Walthamstow
Post by: dingus on October 23, 2025, 08:03:30 am
The video is working. I am not able to upload the video here

Yeah not sure why he did.  Should know better
Title: Re: Yellow Box PCN - Walthamstow
Post by: Incandescent on October 22, 2025, 11:22:37 pm
They are either incompetent or crafty, because the video, which is the sole evidence, is not available, even though frames from it are shown. It is impossible to judge from the photos whether an offence occurred, although it would seem your father drove into the box a short distance behind a bus which is always bad idea in London.

If your father can give more information on the incident, it would help, but it's difficult to help without seeing the video. If the matter is taken to London Tribunals, WF would have to produce the video for the adjudicator to view.
Title: Yellow Box PCN - Walthamstow
Post by: dingus on October 22, 2025, 09:22:21 pm
My dad entered the yellow box junction and i think he bang to rights. I wanted to double check if there is any appeal possible?

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