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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: mindset1990 on October 20, 2025, 11:36:43 am
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Thanks for all your help
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Pl post the Notice of Enforcement from B&S. Only redact your personal details. Post both sides.
If you're near or past the Pay By date and you can still pay £355 then +1 to paying. This has no effect on your OOT chances but caps your liability. Why risk straying into +£235 territory??
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When did you move to your current address.
The fact you updated your address 2 month after the incident does not matter. If you’d updated it one day after they got your details you’d still be in the same boat.
Did you have postal redirection in place?
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A bailiff visit adds £235 to £355 so for peace of mind we usually advise paying now to avoid this.
You can still make an out of time declaration which if successful gets the process reset and a refund.
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Hi there,
Thanks for getting back to me. I updated my V5C online on the 12th May 2025. I am now worried that the bailiffs fine will continue to go up whilst I dispute the fine via the OOT process.
Please post up the documents, redacting only name and address. Bailiffs are subject to statutory amounts when enforcing a debt.
- Notice of enforcement - £75 (Compliance stage)
- Visit fee - £235
to that must be added the PCN penalty, the 50% addition for the Charge Certificate, and £10 for TEC debt registration. Here's what bailiffs can charge. In most cases the percentage fee doesn't apply
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/1/contents
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Hi there,
Thanks for getting back to me. I updated my V5C online on the 12th May 2025. I am now worried that the bailiffs fine will continue to go up whilst I dispute the fine via the OOT process.
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First of all, please read this and update your thread accordingly: -
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
We do see quite a few cases caused by late updating of the address on a V5C, some cases the update even being years late, yes really ! Your case is about 2 months late, so an OOT may succeed, but as you might know, OOTs give the right of objection to the enforcing authority, who invariably do so.
Can you tell us how you updated your V5C, online or postal ?
BTW you won't receive any enforcement documents to your current address, because the authority have to use the address provided by DVLA and use it for all of the enforcement documents. Once bailiffs are instructed, they search out where the PCN recipient has gone and serve a Letter of Enforcement.
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Hi there,
I recently received a letter from Bristow and Sutor about an unpaid PCN, they are requesting I pay £355 for a ULEZ penalty that was issued on March 8th 2025. This is the first letter I have received, but my V5C was registered to the wrong address until 10th May 2025. Do you think there are grounds for an OOT based on me changing my address after the penalty has taken place even though I have received zero correspondence to my latest address?
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Thanks for your help.