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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Taliar on October 19, 2025, 05:48:12 pm

Title: Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: stamfordman on October 20, 2025, 02:58:39 pm

TFL has stopped offering general discretion on the tunnel charges but no ask no get.

Also the tolls are missing from this:

https://www.gov.uk/uk-toll-roads

Title: Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: cp8759 on October 20, 2025, 02:01:37 pm

Quote from: Taliar on October 19, 2025, 05:48:12 pm

@cp8759 is this worth appealing?

I have no idea and I don't have time to look into it, please see the June 2025 update at the bottom of the page here (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/).

Title: Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: Incandescent on October 20, 2025, 10:14:32 am

Quote from: Taliar on October 20, 2025, 09:51:47 am

Has anybody been able to prove maladministration before for this?  @Incadescent, @cp8759

Yes, but it may not be in the PCN, it could be their website for paying or submitting representations, but it's not an area I'm familiar with. If nobody comes back in the next few days, I would consider paying the discount.

Title: Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: Taliar on October 20, 2025, 09:51:47 am

Has anybody been able to prove maladministration before for this?  @Incadescent, @cp8759

Title: Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: Incandescent on October 20, 2025, 01:00:17 am

To be frank, I see nothing to stand on in relation to the contravention itself; the driver was clearly mistaken thinking the Dartfords crossing account included the Blackwall tunnel. The two crossings are operated by completely different organisations.

Others here more experienced with TfL PCNs and their content may see some evidence of maladministration in not puting all the mandatory information required on a Road User Charge (London) PCN. Of course you can go and look at this yourself too, by entering the relevant regulation onto an internet search like I have just done here: -

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/2285/contents
and here
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/2313/contents

Title: Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: badrav on October 19, 2025, 10:28:07 pm

Thanks, I put cp8759 because of the posts on TFL but asking anybody that knows/can help

Title: Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: Incandescent on October 19, 2025, 09:54:11 pm

I think you'll find cp8759 is very busy so why not ask others too ?

Title: A102 Blackwell Tunnel
Post by: Taliar on October 19, 2025, 05:48:12 pm

Driver didn't know there was a charge and there is account for the vehicle for Dartford crossing which thought was the same.

Is there a leg to stand on?

https://imgpile.com/p/arcSSr4

@cp8759 is this worth appealing?