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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: HarryK on October 09, 2025, 03:08:42 pm

Title: Re: Double yellow line on private property - notice to keeper
Post by: InterCity125 on October 10, 2025, 09:08:16 am
It is a different argument but the 'technicality' which the parking firm would face relates to their inability to invoke keeper liability due to their failure to outline the 'period of parking' to which the NtK relates.

If you were to receive a public parking ticket then the ticket would contain a 'period of observation' for a double yellow contravention. On the PCN (posted by the OP) there is just a single timestamp.
Title: Re: Double yellow line on private property - notice to keeper
Post by: DWMB2 on October 09, 2025, 05:27:16 pm
Does the fact that the contravention is for something they prohibit, rather than not paying for parking have any relevance to the argument on time stamp?
That would be a different argument, and whether it had any legs would depend on what the signage at the site says. If no parking is offered at all at the site, e.g the Minster signs just say "No Parking Allowed" or similar, then there is an argument that as the signage does not offer parking on certain terms, then no contract can be formed, as no offer is made. If however the signage offers parking on certain terms, and one of those terms is that you agree to only park within marked bays, or agree not to park on yellow lines, that argument would not succeed.
Title: Re: Double yellow line on private property - notice to keeper
Post by: HarryK on October 09, 2025, 05:18:26 pm
Thank you, I thought that may be the case from some browsing of existing topics.

Does the fact that the contravention is for something they prohibit, rather than not paying for parking have any relevance to the argument on time stamp?
Title: Re: Double yellow line on private property - notice to keeper
Post by: InterCity125 on October 09, 2025, 03:38:58 pm
NtK looks non compliant as total period of parking is not stated.
Title: Double yellow line on private property - notice to keeper
Post by: HarryK on October 09, 2025, 03:08:42 pm
Hello all,

As registered keeper, I have received the attached notice in the post, as the parking company cannot identify the driver.

https://postimg.cc/PCB1xWL0
https://postimg.cc/hznx8K0K

The notice only mentions a single point in time and does not include any photo of the signage referred to. It is not readily possible to see this on Google maps either.

Whilst the driver does appear to have parked in an area with yellow lines from their photos, this is private property and I believe an otherwise free to use car park.

Grateful for any advice.