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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: PhoenixDaCat on October 06, 2025, 05:54:44 pm
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Thank you JustLovesCars.
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With the SJP it will initially be considered by a Single Justice where you cannot attend.
However, given the excess (apparently 82 in a 50?) it's likely that they will send the matter to a court hearing to consider a short ban. You may get (very) lucky and get 6 points without progressing.
But at court a short ban is possible - that excess is just into Band C so if they do ban it will be relatively short, say 1-2 weeks. (Any ban is effective immediately so you cannot drive home)
As the undertake is mentioned in the facts then that could well be considered as aggravating which may increase the sentence. (They could have pursued a higher charge such as careless for that, where the speed would be aggravating)
In terms of professional advice that's up to you but the points you make will probably come best from you (assuming you are intending to plead guilty). Probably worth saving the money for the sentencing.
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Sorry Andy. I'm autistic. This is how I communicate. I'm so sorry. Communication issues are part of the disability.
Yes, the undertake is mentioned in the officer's Witness Statement.
He states what I mention above, that I moved from 1 to 4, a car in 3 moved to 4, and then I moved back to 3 and passed the car now in lane 4.
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So, you want advice on the likelihood of a ban, made us read through a page of mostly irrelevant twaddle before mentioning the alleged speed (82 in a 50 for the benefit of anyone who lost the will to live before getting to that bit) and then ask how the undertake is likely to affect the sentence without telling us whether it is mentioned in the Statement of Facts, and if so how?
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Hi
I received a SJP this weekend for an offence I committed in June, and I'm worried sick to the point I've barely slept.
It's a BandC offence, so I know that it will be a fine of around 150% my weekly salary, plus 40% surcharge and costs. That's hard but I can stomach it, just about.
What I'm really concerned about is that I could potentially get a disqualification of 7 to 56 days, rather than 6 points.
I'm in the very very fortunate/lucky position of having a fully costed company car as part of my remuneration, including a fuel card. If I get a disqualification, even a short one, I will lose my car; those are the rules.
This would be devastating for me, as I have a daily commute of 110 miles round trip, and the cost of fuel, maintenance, insurance etc would be prohibitive. I wouldn't be able to keep my job.
Also, I'm autistic. It doesn't affect my ability to drive, should anyone be wondering.
I really struggle with public transport though, being around people, and as only 3 in 10 autistic people are employed in the UK, combined with my age, I don't think I would find another job easily. I live by myself, I'd lose my house, and I've no family so I would be homeless.
I'm also able to get to the coast at weekends, to walk, which is good for my mindfulness.
Hence being worried sick.
I know that no one can tell me what the outcome will be, but I guess I'm asking about the probability of getting a disqualification.
I was towards the end of a 300 mile journey, which had seen 3 1/2 hours of delays. It was just past midnight, and I came across the third set of overhead signs indicating a speed limit of 50. As the other two stretches had had no roadworks, no accidents, I foolishly ignored them and set the cruise to 60.
I came up behind some other vehicles and moved from lane 1 to lane 4 to pass, but as I got to lane 4, the car in lane 3 pulled into lane 4. Lane 3 was clear, so I accelerated, undertook, and a short while later returned to lane 3 and dropped back to 60.
That's when an unmarked police car pulled infront of me, with the instruction to follow.
Turns out the signs were at 50 nationally for a software update, meaning they couldn't be set in the advent of an emergency.
The officer told me that he'd not been able to do a paced measurement, but that I had hit 82 before slowing.
The offence on the SJP is for Exceeding Temp 50mph limit, but I'm really concerned that the undertake will have a bearing on this. It was stupid of me, I know that, but the car that moved from lane 3 to 4 did so to slow me I feel, and I reacted.
Do any of you with experience in this field know if this would be considered, as it's not an offence of dangerous driving or driving without due care and attention?
Should I get professional advice on preparing a mitigation to plead for 6 points, or is that pointless, is it a done deal?