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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: sjhow2020 on October 28, 2023, 08:50:17 pm
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The traffic order is here https://www.northumberland.gov.uk/NorthumberlandCountyCouncil/media/Roads-streets-and-transport/roads%20highways%20and%20pavements/Traffic%20Management/Made%20orders/TRO-011.pdf and the amending orders are listed at https://www.northumberland.gov.uk/Highways/Roads/Traffic.aspx#4trafficregulationmadeorders
@sjhow2020 are you still with us?
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I've requested the traffic order, but in the meantime please post the back of the PCN.
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Sorry to tell you, but when I look at those photos I see one clear yellow line and one that is partly obscured by leaves. If you thought it was a single yellow, but found no sign giving the times why did you continue to park there ? It would only have taken a moment to partly clear some leaves and see the second line, but you didn't. Lines obscured by leaves has been seen quite a few times on this and the Pepipoo forums and outcomes are usually fairly uncertain. See what the others say, but so far I see nothing to challenge on the contravention itself. The PCN may contain fatal errors that can make it void, so please post all sides, including the "small print".
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Hello
I received the attached Penalty Charge Notice.
The location is https://maps.app.goo.gl/hcMFUDavKHhRogoE6
It's the verge off Hartford Bank, going uphill from the Plessey Woods Country Park sign.
There was so much leaf fall on the road that the double yellow lines were hidden when arriving from the north downhill. I have never been there before so wasn't aware of the road or restrictions. It appeared to me when I arrived from uphill direction that it was a single yellow line. When I parked, I looked for a metal sign but there was none. If the double yellows had not been hidden by leaf fall, it would have been clear to me not to park. As the verge appears as a layby and is next to the Plessey Woods Country Park sign, I believed it was a legitimate place to park. There were other cars parked there. The civil enforcement officer's photos are below. They show the road and are open to your interpretation whether they show double yellows or leaf fall hiding one yellow line. Let me know your honest opinion, please.
Thank you for any advice.
PCN
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/uSx6KZAfKeBSkJNQA)
Evidence photo 1
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/gpHx73fdeSW7XV6h6)
Evidence photo 2
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/3DhsCEibbA2jBMmo8)
Evidence photo 3
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/q9qxFYCbGkgPTr3v6)
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