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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Bullit70 on September 12, 2025, 03:20:27 pm

Title: Re: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: Enceladus on September 26, 2025, 01:49:17 pm
Well done!
Title: Re: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: Bullit70 on September 26, 2025, 12:50:51 pm
Received a letter in the post this morning informing me they have kindly cancelled the PCN.
Happy days. 🥳
Title: Re: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: Bullit70 on September 16, 2025, 11:37:36 am
This is my draft

I am the driver of the vehicle and responsible for bringing the passenger to his various medical appointments, as he suffers with severe mental health and mobility issues. Due to the tube strike, we had no option but to drive part of the journey and use a TFL bus for the remainder. We drove around the block looking for a disabled parking space to no avail.
We then decided to park as close as possible to the required bus stop and displayed a blue badge on the dashboard.
As we are not from Westminster, we did not understand the inconsistent blue badge rules in London. We have previously parked in different boroughs with no issues.


There was no intent to evade a parking charge, in fact, none applied in the bay where I was parked.
(The above was suggested by Enceladus)

Please use your discretion to cancel this PCN. This episode has been very stressful to the passenger, who suffers greatly from anxiety.

Kind regards
Title: Re: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: Enceladus on September 14, 2025, 07:11:02 pm
I'd give it a shot, you have no financial incentive to do otherwise. The PCN is dated Thursday the 11th September. Get an (informal) representation submitted and delivered to the Council on or before Wednesday the 24th and they will re-offer the discount if they reject. Says so on the back of the PCN.

Explain that you did not understand the inconsistent blue badge rules in London. Terribly sorry, I wont do it again now that I know, could happen to anyone, my passenger was disabled and it was his/her BB that I displayed. There was no intent to evade a parking charge, in fact none applied in the pay where I was parked. Please use your discretion to cancel this PCN. And so on, whatever you can think of. Yours an 'umble motorist.

Posting up your proposed informal representation on here for review is a good idea.

See what comes back.
Title: Re: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: Bullit70 on September 14, 2025, 01:34:58 pm
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Looks like I will have to send an appeal to them asking for leinancy. 😊
Title: Re: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: Enceladus on September 12, 2025, 06:22:29 pm
So far as I can see on GSV the sign says "Resident permit holders only" together with a "B" identifier.

There are no times stated, at least not in the bay the OP identified. I take that to mean that only "B" permit holders can park there at any time. So the bay is 24 x 365. Unfortunately Westminster don't permit Blue Badge holders to park in their resident permit bays, during their hours of operation. And that is common in London and not peculiar to Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea etc. Some boroughs will allow BB holders and others don't. However, but not applicable to this case, there is no yellow line exemption for BB holders in Westminster, K&C, CoL etc as stated in the BB guide.
Title: Re: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: H C Andersen on September 12, 2025, 03:39:13 pm
The BB holder is presumed to know because it's made clear in the booklet Blue Badge Rights and Responsibilities which is issued to all BB holders that what might be considered as the normal exemptions for vehicles displaying a BB do not apply in excepted areas:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/683/regulation/5/made

If you carry this person, you should be aware that the Cities of London and Westminster as well as Kensington and Chelsea are exempted in their entirety in addition to parts of Camden.
Title: PCN code 12R issued by Westminster. Blue badge on display
Post by: Bullit70 on September 12, 2025, 03:20:27 pm
I received a 12R PCN from Westminster council last night, with a blue badge on the dashboard. I looked up and down the road and surrounding streets for a dedicated disabled bay, to no avail.

https://imgur.com/a/cRTJ9n1

I chose to park in the resident bay, as it was close to the bus stop we needed to use. The person with me has severe mobility issues. I was not aware you couldn't park there with a B.B. (not from Westminster) and thought any restrictions would expire after 18.30.

Rossmore Rd
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SbU8pS9acsWSprZv9?g_st=ac

I was parked where the silver or black car is positioned.

Any advice/help, gratefully received.