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Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: ML on January 27, 2026, 06:18:46 pm
Hi there, just following your case with interest!

Any update?  :)

ML 8)
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on January 04, 2026, 02:00:35 pm
I called them back and was informed that the case is still awaiting to be transfered to the local court, and they have my up to date address now on the system.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on January 01, 2026, 09:36:10 pm
Thanks once again, Yes I did and also received acknowledgeemnt from Gladstones. Sure I will contact the local court.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on December 30, 2025, 07:28:14 pm
You need to find out which address they used in the transfer to your local county court. If they had not yet updated their records with your current address for service, then you are in danger of getting a CCJ in default.

The court will only correspond by post, which is why you must have an up to date address for service. You should contact your local count court and ask them what is the status of the claim and what address are they using. You can find the contact details for your local county court here:

Find a court or tribunal (https://www.gov.uk/find-court-tribunal)

There will be phone numbers you can use and email addresses. As it has been quite a while, although not too unusual to be waiting a long time, especially of your local county court is very busy, because of the address change, you must enquire immediately.

There was some confusion earlier on this thread about DCB Legal. Having reread it, it is Gladstones, NOT DCB Legal you should have sent the DRN to. Did you do so?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on December 30, 2025, 05:18:05 pm
I contacted the CNBC team by phone to check whether my address had been updated on the system. At the time, it had not been updated, but I was advised that it would be.

I was also told that my case was in the process of being transferred to my local court and that I should receive a letter confirming this. However, it has now been around 4–5 weeks and I have not received any court correspondence.

The phone adviser also stated that email cannot be used as my preferred method of communication, despite me requesting this in my address change email.

Is there an email address I can use to check whether my case has been transferred to the local court, or to confirm whether a hearing notice has been issued? Would caseprogression.cnbc@justice.gov.uk
 be appropriate for this enquiry?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on November 11, 2025, 06:17:21 pm
You must send a Data Rectification Notice (DRN) to each and every party concerned. The DRN is usually sent to the Data Protection Officer (DPO) and you can usually find their contact email address in the privacy statement of their respective websites.

In your DRN you must instruct the DPO to update their records with your current address for service and to erase any other addresses they kay hold for you. The highlighted words are there for a reason so use them.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on November 11, 2025, 03:11:12 pm
How to check who to update my address with (Gladstones or DCB Legal)?

I’m a bit unsure who I need to contact about my address update.

I’ve already emailed and sent a letter to Gladstones Solicitors, and they acknowledegd my eamil. However, during my mediation appointment, the mediator still had my old address on their system.

The mediator told me to email mcol@justice.gov.uk
, but that email seems to be invalid. I’ve already updated my address on MCOL, but I want to make sure it’s correctly updated everywhere — especially with the court and the mediation service.

Do you know the correct the best way to ensure my updated address is properly recorded?

Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on November 10, 2025, 07:11:47 am
Could it be that you need to be in contact with Gladstones, not DCB Legal?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on November 09, 2025, 04:14:47 pm
DCB Legal is asking me for my DCB Legal reference number to locate my file, but I am unable to find it. I have provided them with the claim number, which they are unable to use. Are there any alternative details I can provide to help them locate my file?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on November 09, 2025, 02:49:53 pm
Thanks once again for your help- I have sent the email. The mediator mentioned that they still had my old postal address on their system — even though I previously sent an email to update it, as you advised.

The mediator suggested I contact mcol@justice.gov.uk
, but that email address doesn’t seem to work. Any further advise?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on November 09, 2025, 11:16:28 am
Thank you. You can now send the following email to DCB Legal:

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Dear Sirs,

Re: [Claimant] v [Defendant] – Claim No. [ ]

Further to the Small Claims Mediation Service call on [date], please confirm on the open record that [full name], who attended on your behalf and described themselves as a paralegal, was acting on your instructions and held written authority—whether from the Claimant (or an authorised officer) or by written delegation from the supervising solicitor recorded on your file—to negotiate and, if appropriate, agree terms of settlement on that date.

For the avoidance of doubt, I am not seeking details of your retainer or any without-prejudice content. A simple confirmation (or correction) will suffice.
If you are unable to confirm this, please explain why by return.

I reserve the right to place your response (or lack of response) before the Court if authority becomes a live issue.

Yours faithfully,

[Defendant]
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on November 09, 2025, 09:33:19 am
I had the mediation appointment.

I enquired the 3 questions

• the full name of the person attending for them- mediator did give me the name
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm;- mediator answered that she is a paralegal
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today. mediator said yes

Then I offered

"My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no order as to costs."

Mediator spoke with them and then came back to me saying that the step is court proceeding.

So I will wait for the court proceeding now.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on October 11, 2025, 04:29:09 pm
When you submitted your N180 DQ, did you out any dates you would not be available? If so, have they given you a date that you said you would not be available?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: jfollows on October 11, 2025, 09:25:31 am
You posted in your Reply #23 above:
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Rebooking your appointment
If you need to rebook your appointment, you must have a good reason. The administration team will only consider rebooking in exceptional circumstances, such as an accident or a family bereavement. You must let us know as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on October 10, 2025, 09:34:20 pm
Thanks for the advise, are the mediation appointment date/timings negotiable at all?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on October 10, 2025, 09:15:08 pm
For the mediation call, the only requirement is for you "attend" the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved.

This is what I advise you to say when you receive the call from the mediator:

Before I set out my position, please confirm from the claimant’s side:

• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

Please relay that back to me before we continue.

After the mediator calls back...

If identified and authority confirmed:

Thank you. I’m content to proceed on that basis. My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no order as to costs.

If no/unclear authority:

Please record that the claimant’s attendee has not confirmed settlement authority. My position remains that liability is denied and my offer is £0, subject to prompt approval by an authorised solicitor if they choose to discontinue.

All you need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back to us. It will be over within minutes. Complete waste of time otherwise.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on October 10, 2025, 08:57:12 pm
Now I received mediation appointment.

"Claim number: .....

Parties: ... ...... vs .......

Your telephone mediation appointment
Appointment date: ....

Appointment time slot: ........

Your confidential telephone mediation appointment has been booked for the above date and time slot. This means that the mediator will call you between the times shown. Your appointment will last for around one hour from the point at which the mediator calls.

The mediator will call both parties separately – you will not talk directly to the other side. They will try to help you both come to an agreement before the case goes to court.

Where your mediation appointment is mandatory, If you do not attend the appointment, the judge will take this into consideration at any court hearing and may issue a penalty. This could include the judge automatically ruling in the other party’s favour or ordering you to pay for some or all the other party’s costs.


Preparing for your appointment
You must make sure you have provided us with, or confirmed, the name and number of the person who will be conducting the mediation appointment. If you have not done this, or need to update your telephone number, you should contact us using the details at the end of this letter no less than 5 working days before your mediation appointment. Failure to do so may result in your mediation appointment not taking place and may result in a Judge issuing a penalty where the mediation was mandatory.

The mediator will call from a withheld number. Make sure that withheld numbers are not blocked on your phone.

Be ready to receive a call from the mediator from the beginning of your time slot. The mediator will call the telephone number you provided in your application.

If the mediator cannot contact you within 10 minutes of the appointment start, the appointment will be cancelled and you may, where mediation is mandatory, face a penalty for non-attendance.


Rebooking your appointment
If you need to rebook your appointment, you must have a good reason. The administration team will only consider rebooking in exceptional circumstances, such as an accident or a family bereavement. You must let us know as soon as possible.


Nominating a different representative
If you want someone else to represent you at mediation (like a trusted friend, relative or a solicitor) you must contact the mediation team

If you want to choose someone to attend your mediation appointment on your behalf who is not a part of the claim or is not a legal representative, you will also need to complete a delegated authority form. You can find out more about this on GOV.UK.

Your representative must know the facts of the case, understand how far you’re willing to compromise and have full authority to act on your behalf. You’re legally bound to any settlement agreements your representative makes on your behalf.


What happens in your mediation appointment?
Introduction from the mediator
The mediator will introduce themselves and check that you have read and understood the mediation process.

Explaining your position
You will need to briefly explain your claim or defence to the mediator. You should prepare for yourself a brief summary of the main points.

Negotiating options 
You’re attending mediation with a view to settling your case. This means negotiating to overcome disputed issues. The mediator is neutral and helps each party to explore options and discuss risks. Mediation works when you’re willing to listen to what the other party has to say, negotiate and agree a settlement.

Building agreement
Settlement can be in many different forms, for example, payment, goods or work. Both parties must agree on the outcome and feel they have reached an acceptable resolution.

Reaching a settlement
The mediator will read the terms of the settlement and confirm agreement with each party. Once agreed, the settlement is legally binding and cannot be changed. A copy of the mediation settlement is sent to both parties and placed on the court file.


Confidentiality
All mediation appointments are confidential. An agreed settlement includes a standard confidentiality clause.


Ending the mediation process
The mediator can end the mediation if, at any time:

either party breaches the terms on which they agreed to mediation
there is no prospect that the mediation will end in settlement
the mediator deems it inappropriate to continue in the case that one or both parties are vulnerable users
either party asks to end mediation

Find out more about Small Claims Mediation by watching our video HERE. Find out more in the guide to the Small Claims Mediation Service on GOV.UK.


Small Claims Mediation Service contact details
If you have any complaints or issues to raise about the Mediation Service, contact us by email or telephone:"
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on October 02, 2025, 08:43:26 pm
Thanks again
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on October 01, 2025, 01:47:16 pm
Either or. The Claim form will have the Claim number on it and also a reference that DCB legal use. Doesn't matter which.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 30, 2025, 09:32:55 pm
Many thanks again, Is DCB legal reference number the same as my claim form, claim number? or where do I find DCB claim number?
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 30, 2025, 01:51:10 pm
Email back to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself with the following response:

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Subject: Formal Complaint — Failure to Locate File / Unwarranted Rejection of Correspondence — Reference [Your reference]

Dear Litigation Team Leader,

This is a formal complaint.

On [date of first email] I provided the information your office requested (full name; first line address and postcode; DCB Legal reference number). Your subsequent automated reply claimed my message contained “offensive language” and was therefore not passed to the relevant team. That assertion is false.

Details:
• My original email sent on: [date/time]
• Information provided: Full name: [Your name]; Address/postcode: [first line/postcode]; DCB Legal reference number: [number]
• Automated response received on: [date/time] (copy attached/quoted below)

This automated rejection is unacceptable. I require the following:
1. Immediate confirmation that my supplied information has been located and associated with the correct file.
2. A clear explanation of what triggered the automated “offensive language” rejection, including the specific phrase or token flagged and the name of the filtering system (if any).
3. A copy of the correspondence log showing how my emails were processed and why they were blocked.
4. Confirmation that my case will not be prejudiced or delayed because of an erroneous automated screening.

If you cannot provide the above within 7 calendar days, I will escalate this matter to the Solicitors Regulation Authority and the Information Commissioner’s Office for review of professional conduct and records handling. I will also consider a formal complaint to your firm’s senior management and any other relevant regulatory body.

Please treat this as a formal complaint under your firm’s complaints procedure and acknowledge receipt within 48 hours.

Yours sincerely,

[Your full name]

[Postal address]
[Email address]
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 29, 2025, 08:31:32 pm
I receeived email from DCB legal today

Dear Sir/Madam,
 
DCB Legal write further to your recent email.


Please note, DCB Legal are unable to locate your file with the information provided.

To enable DCB Legal to locate your file and action your query accordingly, please provide the following;


• Full name
• First line address/postcode
• DCB Legal reference number


Kind Regards,

 

.......

Litigation Team Leader

DCB Legal Ltd

So I replied to this email as below

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thanks for your email. Please find below the required information

Full name: .... (my name)
First line address/postcode: .... (my current address)
DCB Legal reference number: ..... (I put my claim number)

Dont hesitate to contact me if you require anymore information.

Kind regards
.....

For some reason I received this automatic reply back from them

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email. We have reviewed your message; however, as your communication contains offensive language, it has violated our communication guidelines. As such, your email has not been passed to the relevant team you are trying to reach.

We encourage respectful and professional exchanges, and we kindly ask that future correspondence reflects these standards.

Thank you for your understanding.

Best regards,

I am quite confused and worried as well, what I have done wrong and what they mean by offensive language?


Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 24, 2025, 10:19:37 pm
Thanks again, I have sent the email, will keep you posted.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 24, 2025, 12:17:56 pm
Your details for E.

F2 - NO.

F4-F6 are self explanatory and I am not even going to answer!
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 23, 2025, 08:36:43 pm
Thank you so much again for your guidance. I’ll go ahead and send the email to the claimant as you advised.

I’ve also completed the N-180 form following your advice, but I would be very grateful if you could kindly have a quick look at some of my answers. There are a few sections I’ve left blank that I’m unsure about:

Section E – Mediation appointment

Section F2 – Expert evidence

Section F4 to F6 – Hearing details

Here’s the link to my Defendant N-180 form: https://imgur.com/a/l07cCl0

Many thanks again for all your help and patience — it really means a lot.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 23, 2025, 06:02:49 pm
Use your current address for service (the one that is operative today) on the N180.

You have already filed a Notice of Change making the new address effective from 8 October 2025. Until that date, the “old” address remains the formal address for service. Putting a future-dated address on the N180 would conflict with your filed notice.

In your covering email/letter when filing your N180, add one line:

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Please note: my address for service changes on 8 October 2025 to [new address], as previously notified under CPR Part 6/PD 42.

On another note, I see that Gladstones have signed their own N180 as a corporate entity and not a named individual. This must be objected to. The person who has completed their N180DQ is conducting litigation and must be a named individual who is authorised to do so. A paralegal or anyone else conducting litigation, even under the supervision of a solicitor is not authorised and is likely in breach of the Legal Services Act 2007, which is a criminal offence.

I advise you to email the following to the CNBC at dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in Gladstones at enquiries@gladstonessolicitors.co.uk and yourself:

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Subject: Claim [number] – [Claimant] v [Defendant] – Defendant’s N180 + Objection to Claimant’s N180

Please find attached: (1) Defendant’s N180 (signed) and (2) Objection to Claimant’s N180 (signed PDF).

Address for service: [current address]. Please note: my address for service changes on 8 October 2025 to [new address], as previously notified under CPR Part 6/PD 42.

Copied to the Claimant’s solicitors.

Attach the following as a pdf file together with your pdf copy of your completed N180DQ:

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County Court Business Centre (CNBC)
Claim no.: [XXXXXXX]
Parties: [Claimant] v [Defendant]

OBJECTION TO CLAIMANT’S N180 DIRECTIONS QUESTIONNAIRE (DEFECTIVE SIGNATURE & AUTHORISATION)

I object to the Claimant’s purported filing of Form N180, which is “signed” only as “Gladstones Solicitors Ltd” with no identified individual signatory.

Signature defect (PD 5A)

Form N180 requires a valid signature by the party or an identified legal representative. Practice Direction 5A requires documents to be signed where indicated by the person responsible; where that person acts as a member/employee of a firm, the firm’s name may be added, but a firm name alone is not a signature. The absence of an identified individual undermines accountability and is procedurally defective.

Conduct of litigation (Legal Services Act 2007)

Signing and filing an N180 is a step in the “conduct of litigation” within s.12 and Schedule 2 paragraph 4 of the Legal Services Act 2007. Only the party, an authorised person, or an exempt person under Schedule 3 may carry out reserved legal activities.

Mazur authority

The High Court in Mazur & Anor v Charles Russell Speechlys LLP [2025] EWHC 2341 (KB) (16 September 2025) confirmed that employees who are not themselves authorised (and not within a Schedule 3 exemption) cannot conduct litigation, even if supervised. The individual who signs must personally be authorised (or exempt).

Potential statutory non-compliance

If the person who completed/signed the N180 is not authorised or exempt, carrying on a reserved legal activity may contravene s.14 of the Legal Services Act 2007.

Directions sought

A) That the Claimant be directed within 7 days to re-file and serve a properly signed N180 which:

(i) identifies the individual signatory by name and status/position; and
(ii) confirms that the signatory is authorised (or states the relied-upon Schedule 3 exemption) to conduct litigation.

B) That until compliance, the current N180 be treated as defective and disregarded for case-management purposes, with any further sanction at the Court’s discretion in the event of non-compliance.

Service

These documents are served on the Claimant’s solicitors by copy of this email.

Signed: [Defendant’s full name]

[Date]

For your reference, here are therein things you need to know about completing your own N180DQ:

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 23, 2025, 03:44:08 pm
Thanks once again. Please find attached the claimant’s N180 form and the defendant’s N180 form. Could you kindly let me know if any changes are required?

I am due to change my address on 09/10/25 and have already notified the court (as you advised previously). Should I still put my current address on the N180, or use my future address effective from 09/10/25?

Claimant N-180 link https://imgur.com/a/DBeDZhL
Defendent N-180 link https://imgur.com/a/l07cCl0
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 20, 2025, 10:33:30 am
Please show us a copy of the N180 DQ form. DO NOT redact the name or position of the person who has signed that DQ form.

This is very important as there is a very recent High Court appeal decision which is binding that can be used against them as the person who has signed that form is quite possibly not authorised to do so.

That letter is a standard boilerplate response. You are waiting for your own N180 Directions Questionnaire (DQ) to arrive. Just follow these instructions:

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 19, 2025, 10:26:06 pm
Court received ny defence and defence was sent to the claimant.

Then received email from the solicitor

"Dear ..............

 

We act for the Claimant and have notified the Court of the Claimant’s intention to proceed with the Claim. 

 

Please find enclosed a copy of the Claimant’s completed Directions Questionnaire, which has also been filed with the Court. 

 

You will note the Claimant has elected to mediate in an attempt to settle this matter amicably, without the need for further Court intervention. Should you agree to mediation, please inform the Court who will contact both parties to arrange a mediation appointment.

 

Yours sincerely


Skye 

Legal Assistant 


Glad... Solicitors Limited  " They have also sent a filled N180 form attached. Could you please advise what shall I do next??
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 16, 2025, 01:12:43 pm
Thank you so much again.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 15, 2025, 01:19:14 pm
This is the email address you need to use: caseprogression.cnbc@justice.gov.uk

Put the claim number in the email subject (e.g., “[Claim number] – Defendant – Change of address”) and the first line of the body.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 15, 2025, 11:30:57 am
Many thanks again for your help. I will email and post the documents to both.
Could you please let me know how I can confirm that the court accepts email? I can only find this email address (ccbc@justice.gov.uk), searching on the internet.

Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 14, 2025, 03:00:06 pm
Tell the court currently holding the file (CNBC/Money Claim Online before transfer; your local hearing centre after transfer).

Also Gladstones. Under CPR 6.7, once solicitors are instructed, service is on them.

Send a short written “Notice of Change of Address for Service” (you can use Form N434 or a simple letter with the same information). The rules require parties to maintain an address for service and to notify changes; a notice should be filed at court and served on every other party.

Include:

• Claim number and parties
• Your full name
• Old address for service
• New address for service
• Effective date (e.g., “effective 8 October 2025”)
• Optional: “I also consent to service by email at: [email]” (this helps you receive documents promptly; consent is needed for valid email service).

File and send by email to the court (if that court accepts it) or post; keep proof of posting.
As for the claimant, serve by post to their service address on the claim (and email a courtesy copy). If you want email-only service to count, ensure they have expressly agreed to accept service by email.

Do it now, stating the effective date of 08/10/2025. If the case later transfers to your local county court, re-send the same notice to that court so their file is up to date.

Updating your details on the MCOL user profile is helpful for contact, but the rules still require a filed and served notice of the new address for service.

You can use this as a letter or complete Form N434

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Subject: Notice of Change of Address for Service

Court: [CNBC/Hearing Centre]
Claim no.: [XXXXXXX]
Parties: [Claimant] v [Defendant]

I, [full name], the Defendant, give notice under CPR Part 6 and PD 42 that my address for service has changed.

Old address for service: [full old address]
New address for service: [full new address]
Effective date: 8 October 2025

Please update the court record.

I also consent to service by email at: [email address].

Signed: [name]

Dated: [date]

Served on: the Claimant/Gladstones Solicitors at their address for service.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 14, 2025, 02:21:37 pm
Thank you so much — I truly appreciate your help and support. I’ll keep you updated on how things progress.

I’m due to change my address and move house next month on 08/10/25. Could you kindly advise on the best way to inform both the court and the claimant about my new address?

Many thanks again for your guidance!
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 14, 2025, 02:08:45 pm
Short answer: yes, it’s appropriate to include the suggested draft order within the defence on MCOL. It won’t be treated as an application; it’s an invitation for the judge to act of their own initiative. It does no harm and can help a judge who is minded to strike out.

The PoC in any Gladstones issued claim never comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) as they never include a concise statement of the facts on which the claimant relies. Think of CPR 16.4(1)(a) as the rule that says: if you sue someone, you must tell them, in short but clear terms, exactly what facts you rely on. Not conclusions, not labels, but the basic story: what contract, what term, what was done wrong, where and when, and how the sum is made up.

The PoC in a Gladstones issued claim don’t do that. Here’s why:

1. “Breach of parking terms” is just a conclusion. The PoC don’t say what the driver supposedly did: failed to pay, overstayed, left site, wrong bay, no permit, etc. Without the alleged act, there are no material facts to answer.
2. Contract cases must set out the contract relied upon. PD 16 paras 7.3–7.5 require the claimant to attach or set out the relevant terms if it’s written, or to state the terms if it’s oral or by conduct. The PoC don’t identify any contractual term or wording, so the defendant can’t see what term was allegedly broken.
3. The PoC don’t state who is being sued and on what basis: the driver, or the registered keeper under PoFA. If the keeper is pursued, the claimant should plead that PoFA Schedule 4 conditions are met. As drafted, the defendant cannot tell which case they have to meet.
4. Time and duration matter in parking claims. Saying only “23/07/2024” isn’t enough. There’s no start time, end time, or period of parking, so the defendant can’t check signage hours, machine logs, receipts, grace/consideration periods, or whether the vehicle was merely stopped briefly.
5. The place is vague. “Stack Shack” is a trading name, not a precise location or car park area. Many sites have multiple bays/zones with different signs. The PoC don’t say exactly where on the land the alleged breach occurred or what sign applied there.
6. The £60 “contractual costs” are just a label. The PoC don’t plead any contractual term that entitles that add-on, nor facts showing the defendant agreed to pay it. In contract, you must point to the term that creates liability for the extra sum.
7. Interest is not properly particularised. PD 16 para 4.2 says a claimant seeking s.69 interest should state the rate, the start date, the period to which it applies, the daily rate, and the amount claimed. The PoC give only a lump figure and 8% with no period or daily rate.
8. Standing is not pleaded. Private parking firms need authority from the landowner to contract and to sue. The PoC say nothing about the claimant’s authority, which is part of the factual basis of the claim.
9. The £50 “legal representative’s costs” are claimed but no basis is pleaded. On the small claims track, recoverable costs are tightly limited; if they say it’s part of the principal debt, they must plead the contractual basis. If they say it’s costs, they must accept the small-claims limits. As pled, it’s opaque.

Overall, the PoC read like “you broke some rule, pay £257.50” without telling the defendant what rule, how it was broken, or why the figures are due. CPR 16.4(1)(a) requires a concise statement of the facts relied on. These particulars give conclusions and totals, not facts, so the defendant cannot plead a proper response. That is why they breach CPR 16.4(1)(a).

MCOL limits do not excuse inadequate Particulars

MCOL’s character limit is real, but the rules provide a simple workaround. If the online box was too small, the claimant should have selected “particulars to follow” and then served full Particulars of Claim within 14 days of service of the claim form (CPR 7.4(1)(b); PD 7C paras 5.2 and 6.1). That route exists so claimants can comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and PD 16.

Full Particulars served separately should set out the contract relied on and the exact term said to be broken, who is sued and on what basis (driver or keeper under PoFA and how its conditions are met), the where/when/how long of the alleged parking event, and a clear breakdown of the sums claimed with the contractual or statutory basis for any add-ons and for interest (PD 16 paras 7.3–7.5; PD 16 para 4.2 on interest).

If MCOL still felt unsuitable, the claimant could have issued on paper using form N1. Nothing in the rules forced them to rely on an under-particularised MCOL narrative.

Prior letters, PCNs or emails are irrelevant to pleading compliance. The Particulars must stand on their own and enable a defendant, assumed to know nothing about the matter on receipt, to understand the case and plead a defence. The court cannot treat earlier correspondence as if it were part of the PoC.

In short, the claimant’s failure is one of choice, not constraint. The rules gave straightforward options to plead properly. MCOL is not an excuse.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 14, 2025, 12:20:09 pm
Dear b789 – Hero Member,

Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful response — I truly value the time and advice you’re sharing.

If I may ask, would it be considered appropriate to include a suggested draft order when submitting my defence to the court?
And, if it’s not too much trouble, do you happen to know whether anyone has successfully used a similar defence to have their case struck out?

I’m very grateful for your help and guidance.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: b789 on September 11, 2025, 09:04:12 pm
Trust me, what you have suggested as a defence is all correct but is going to p!ss off the judge who has to read it, especially the polemic on the upcoming Act. You do not want to anger a judge who is looking for the easy life with your defence.

Use the following for your defence, which has been drafted with the assistance of a very long serving district judge family member:

Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the "system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that far.

You will need to copy and paste it into the defence text box on MCOL. It has been checked to make sure that it will fit into the 122 lines limit.

Quote
1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a), particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity. The Defendant refers specifically to the persuasive appellate cases:

- Civil Enforcement Ltd v Chan (2023), Luton County Court, HHJ Murch, ref: E7GM9W44

- CPMS Ltd v Akande (2024), Manchester County Court, HHJ Evans, ref: K0DP5J30

In both cases, the claim was struck out due to identical failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

5. The Defendant invites the Court to strike out this claim of its own initiative. The Defendant relies on the judicial reasoning set out in Chan and Akande, as well as other County Court cases involving identical failures to adequately comply with CPR 16.4. In those cases, the court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is (or are) relied on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have done pursuant to CPR PD 7C.5.2(2), but chose not to do so.

AND upon the claim being for a very modest sum such that the court considers it disproportionate and not in accordance with the overriding objective to allot to this case any further share of the court's resources by ordering further particulars of claim and a further defence, each followed by further referrals to the judge for case management.

ORDER:

1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this Court not more than 5 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.
Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: DWMB2 on September 11, 2025, 02:43:59 pm
I’m having trouble uploading the first page of my claim form
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Title: Re: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 11, 2025, 02:09:49 pm
My defence

1. The Particulars of Claim are defective. They fail to specify the alleged contractual breach, omit the property’s address and relevant parking times, and merely refer to “Stack Shack”. This lack of clarity renders the claim embarrassing and non-compliant with CPR 16.4 and Practice Direction 16, which require a statement of all facts necessary to formulate a complete cause of action. The added costs/damages are an attempt at double recovery of capped legal fees (already listed in the claim) and are not monies genuinely owed to, or incurred by, this Claimant. The claim also exceeds the Code of Practice (CoP) £100 parking charge (“PC”) maximum. Exaggerated and incoherent claims for impermissible sums are good reason for the court to intervene. Whilst the Defendant reserves the right to amend the defence if details of the contract are provided, the Court is invited to strike out the claim using its powers under CPR 3.4.
2.     Separately from the defects in the Particulars of Claim, the allegation(s) and heads of cost are vague and liability is denied for the sum claimed, or at all. At the very least, interest should be disallowed; the delay in bringing proceedings lies with the Claimant. This also makes retrieving material documents/evidence difficult, which is highly prejudicial. The Defendant seeks fixed costs (CPR 27.14) and a finding of unreasonable conduct and further costs (CPR 46.5). The Defendant has little recollection of events, save as set out below and to admit that they were the registered keeper, so questions whether the Notice to Keeper was even POFA compliant.
3.     In further support of the Defendant’s position that the Particulars of Claim are defective, two recent persuasive appeal judgments in Civil Enforcement Limited v Chan (Ref. E7GM9W44) and Car Park Management Service Ltd v Akande (Ref. K0DP5J30) would indicate the POC fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(e) and Practice Direction Part 16.7.5. On the 15th August 2023, in the Chan case, HHJ Murch held: 'the particulars of the claim as filed and served did not set out the conduct which amounted to the breach in reliance upon which the claimant would be able to bring a claim for breach of contract'. The same is true in this case and the Defendant trusts that the Court should strike out the extant claim, using its powers pursuant to CPR 3.4. The second recent persuasive appeal judgment also held that typical private parking case POC (like this) fail to comply with Part 16. On the 10 May 2024, in CPMS v Akande, HHJ Evans held: 'Particulars of Claim have to set out the basic facts upon which a party relies in order to prove his or her claim'.
3.1  In addition to the defective Particulars of Claim, there was a procedural failure in service. The Defendant had moved from their residence near Birmingham in late September 2024, yet the Claimant served the notice to the former address (CPR 6.9(3)). The HM Courts and Tribunals notice, issued 15th August 2025, was only received via the previous landlord. This error prejudices the Defendant and undermines the claim’s reliability.
4. It is neither admitted nor denied that a term was breached but to form a contract, there must be an offer, acceptance, and valuable consideration (absent in this case). The Consumer Rights Act 2015 (s71) mandates a 'test of fairness' duty on Courts and sets a high bar for prominence of terms and 'consumer notices'. Paying regard to Sch2 (examples 6, 10, 14 & 18), also s62 and the duties of fair, open dealing/good faith, the Defendant notes that this Claimant reportedly uses unclear (unfair) terms/notices. On the limited information given, this case looks no different. The Claimant is put to strict proof with contemporaneous photographs.

5. DVLA keeper data is only supplied on the basis of prior written landowner authority. The Claimant (an agent) is put to strict proof of their standing to sue and the terms, scope and dates of the landowner agreement, including the contract, updates, schedules and a map of the site boundary set by the landowner (not an unverified Google Maps aerial view).
6. To impose a PC, as well as a breach, there must be: (i) a strong 'legitimate interest' extending beyond compensation for loss, and (ii) 'adequate notice' (prominence) of the PC and any relevant obligation(s). None of which have been demonstrated. This PC is a penalty arising as a result of a 'concealed pitfall or trap', poor signs and covert surveillance, thus it is fully distinguished from ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC67.
7. Attention is drawn to (i) paras 98, 100, 193, 198 of  Beavis (an £85 PC comfortably covered all letter chain costs and generated a profit shared with the landowner) and also to (ii) the binding judgment in ParkingEye v Somerfield Stores ChD [2011] EWHC 4023(QB) which remains unaffected by Beavis and stands as the only parking case law that deals with costs abuse. HHJ Hegarty held in paras 419-428 (High Court, later ratified by the CoA) that 'admin costs' inflating a £75 PC (already increased from £37.50) to £135 were disproportionate to the minor cost of an automated letter-chain and 'would appear to be penal'.
8. The Parking (Code of Practice) Act will curb rogue conduct by operators and their debt recovery agents (DRAs). The Government recently launched a Public Consultation considered likely to bring in a ban on DRA fees, which a 2022 Minister called ‘extorting money from motorists’. They have identified in July 2025: 'profit being made by DRAs is significantly higher than ... by parking operators' and 'the high profits may be indicative of these firms having too much control over the market, thereby indicating that there is a market failure'.
9. Pursuant to Sch4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('POFA') the claim exceeds the maximum sum and is unrecoverable: see Explanatory Note 221: 'The creditor may not make a claim against the keeper ... for more than the amount of the unpaid parking related charges as they stood when the notice to the driver was issued (para 4(5))'. Late fees (unknown to drivers, not specified on signs) are not 'unpaid parking related charges'. They are the invention of 'no win no fee' DRAs. Even in the (unlikely) event that the Claimant complied with the POFA and CoP, there is no keeper liability law for DRA fees.
Title: Private parking fine (Gladstones)- HM Tribunals letter
Post by: Waqas on September 11, 2025, 02:08:07 pm
I’ve received a County Court Claim from Euro Parking Services Limited, issued via the Civil National Business Centre (Northampton) on 15 August 2025. I have already complete AOS.

Claim details (from the form):

Claimant: Euro Parking Services Limited

Solicitors: Gladstones Solicitors Limited

Allegation: The driver of my vehicle allegedly breached parking terms at Stack Shack on 23/07/2024, incurring a Parking Charge Notice (PCN).

The claim is for:

£100 for the PCN

£60 contractual costs

£12.50 statutory interest (8% p.a.)

Plus court fee (£35) and legal representative’s costs (£50).

Total claimed: £257.50

Background:
I didn’t settle the PCN within 28 days.

Current issue:
I’m trying to post this on your site for feedback on my defence, but I’m having trouble uploading the first page of my claim form

I would appreciate some guidance- Whether my defence (see below) looks reasonable?

Thanks in advance for your help!