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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: ashirusnw on October 26, 2023, 03:15:40 pm

Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: Hippocrates on December 23, 2023, 02:46:13 pm
Good luck.  The TWOC ground fetters to theft too.
Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: ashirusnw on December 22, 2023, 12:41:46 pm
I am happy to be your representative at the tribunal free of charge as I have previous history for beating  Haringey’s moving traffic Pcn. Email me at mrmustard@zoho.com

thank you so much!! I have asked the guy who got the ticket to email you and send all info
Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: mrmustard on December 21, 2023, 12:23:30 am
I am happy to be your representative at the tribunal free of charge as I have previous history for beating  Haringey’s moving traffic Pcn. Email me at mrmustard@zoho.com
Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: Pastmybest on December 20, 2023, 04:53:09 pm
Idiots can't read even when it's pointed out to them IMO that nor seals their fate and you would win at tribunal
Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: ashirusnw on December 20, 2023, 02:22:26 pm
Hi they rejected :(

(https://i.imgur.com/iub2XJe.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/eCZk3Ll.png)
Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: ashirusnw on October 30, 2023, 04:10:05 pm
Here are:

The Haringey (Moving Traffic Restrictions) (No.14) Experimental Order 2023 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=16d4iqs1E3DLHRFdpjMIml5s8S--VfWVC)
The Haringey (Moving Traffic Restrictions) (No.14) Experimental Order 2023 maps (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1ahNqXvqShs9i0xR-pSyBfn272ZHVoNzq)

Can't see anything wrong with those, but the PCN is flawed.

Draft reps:

Dear London Borough of Haringey,

I challenge liability for this PCN on the grounds that the penalty demanded exceeds the amount due in the circumstances of the case. In this instance the penalty charge wrongly asserts that a charge certificate may be issued after 28 days from the date of the notice, rather than 28 days from the date of service of the notice (as it should).

I draw your attention to the decision in Robert Atlas v London Borough of Barnet (2170053479, 24 April 2017), which comprehensively deals with this point, and was recently followed in Edmundson Electrical Ltd v City of London (2220061290, 07 March 2022) and Goode Durrant Administration Ltd v City of London (2230004045, 01 February 2023).

In light of the above the penalty charge must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,


Send the representations online via the council website and get a screenshot of the confirmation page. Don't worry about the discount, you will almost certainly have to appeal to the tribunal but we will help with that. And you will almost certainly prevail in the end.

Thank you so much, I will pass on and keep you updated
Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: cp8759 on October 29, 2023, 08:16:16 pm
Here are:

The Haringey (Moving Traffic Restrictions) (No.14) Experimental Order 2023 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=16d4iqs1E3DLHRFdpjMIml5s8S--VfWVC)
The Haringey (Moving Traffic Restrictions) (No.14) Experimental Order 2023 maps (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1ahNqXvqShs9i0xR-pSyBfn272ZHVoNzq)

Can't see anything wrong with those, but the PCN is flawed.

Draft reps:

Dear London Borough of Haringey,

I challenge liability for this PCN on the grounds that the penalty demanded exceeds the amount due in the circumstances of the case. In this instance the penalty charge wrongly asserts that a charge certificate may be issued after 28 days from the date of the notice, rather than 28 days from the date of service of the notice (as it should).

I draw your attention to the decision in Robert Atlas v London Borough of Barnet (2170053479, 24 April 2017), which comprehensively deals with this point, and was recently followed in Edmundson Electrical Ltd v City of London (2220061290, 07 March 2022) and Goode Durrant Administration Ltd v City of London (2230004045, 01 February 2023).

In light of the above the penalty charge must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,


Send the representations online via the council website and get a screenshot of the confirmation page. Don't worry about the discount, you will almost certainly have to appeal to the tribunal but we will help with that. And you will almost certainly prevail in the end.
Title: Re: PCN no entry
Post by: ashirusnw on October 29, 2023, 01:08:00 pm
bump pls
Title: PCN no entry
Post by: ashirusnw on October 26, 2023, 03:15:40 pm
Hi, this ain't my ticket I'm helping a friend, so I don't have photos or more details yet but it's for driving through a (fairly new) new entry sign.

Hoping PCN wording is wrong.

I'm not certain which legislation covers this, but if it's  London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/enacted) then it doesn't seem to say the address to which payment must be sent and says "maybe" instead of "may be" but perhaps there's a more fundemental flaw ... I'm new to this!

In any event, hows a driver to manage to turn around safely so close to a T junction?

PCN:
(https://i.imgur.com/m2QUtfe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kzahUVU.jpg)

GSV but note this is recent restriction so this signage and the planters aren't shown:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5908598,-0.090167,3a,75y,90.96h,85.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syLWyr0jsVJfu0Gh36_HFLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu