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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 09:07:27 am

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 30, 2025, 08:59:24 am

have emailed the council directly quoting the out of time above; got a received email response so I know they have it

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 26, 2025, 01:07:13 pm

Received the below whilst away

https://imgur.com/a/4EUYt2W

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 26, 2025, 12:53:24 pm

Thank you very much

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: H C Andersen on September 26, 2025, 10:41:29 am

Then the PCN is void by virtue of being served out of time.

'Penalty exceeded the amount applicable....circumstances of the case'.

The circumstances being that on 25 June 2025 the authority were notified by virtue of a Revocation Order issued by the Traffic Enforcement Centre that the Order for Recovery and Charge Certificate in this case were revoked/to be cancelled respectively. Whereas the authority could issue a fresh notice, this was subject to the strict time limit of 28 days imposed under Regulation 10(7)(b) of the 'General' Regulations. The PCN in this case was served after 59 days and is therefore void and but nonetheless must be formally cancelled.

 

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 26, 2025, 07:59:40 am

Then phone them.

Got through to them, handed back to the council on 25th June

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 25, 2025, 10:33:33 am

Hi, could do with some help on this one, thanks

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 24, 2025, 09:35:53 am

Hi, sorry for the delay (been on holiday) The court returned the PCN/case to Redbridge Council on June 25th

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 09:27:04 pm

Appreciate that. Emailing and phoning tomorrow.

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: H C Andersen on September 09, 2025, 05:58:35 pm

OP, the contents of the PCN are b******s anyway.

But I'm still on procedure.

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 05:42:50 pm

Looking on the council website it seems that the time for an informal appeal has passed. The fine currently stands at £175
Link below
https://imgur.com/a/7MJGcz1

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 04:54:43 pm

Will do, will revert ASAP

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: H C Andersen on September 09, 2025, 04:49:37 pm

Then phone them.

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 04:41:12 pm

I have the application acknowledgement from TEC which was lodged in March but can’t find anything beyond that.

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 02:59:11 pm

Correction 23rd July

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 02:30:58 pm

So if the revocation order was pre August 1st the council cannot reissue the PCN as they have?

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: H C Andersen on September 09, 2025, 02:20:16 pm

edit I've referred to incorrect regs. This is TMA.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/71/regulation/10

The point remains, however. There is a strict time limit for serving a PCN by post after a revocation.

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 02:08:47 pm

Sorry, cant find it. can we proceed without?

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 01:29:18 pm

Not 100% on that, will check

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: H C Andersen on September 09, 2025, 01:10:05 pm

..and the date of TEC's revocation order?

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 01:07:48 pm

Ok, date noted, thanks

Yes. registered keeper

Title: Re: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: H C Andersen on September 09, 2025, 11:56:58 am

Realise I am out of time for reduced payment

?

PCN issued 20 Aug. 2025
Last day of the 21-day period is today, 9th Sept.

Anyway, let's deal with procedure first pl.

Are you the registered keeper?
Date that Traffic Enforcement Centre revoked the Order for Recovery(it's on the revocation order).

Title: PCN Code 47j Wanstead
Post by: sausage1971 on September 09, 2025, 09:07:27 am

Hi
Issued last year and got it pulled back from Northampton as sent to old address. Now reissued. Realise I am out of time for reduced payment so looking to appeal. I had a look at similar cases and saw that if the LA doesn’t specify exact location then there are decent grounds for appeal?
Linking the latest letter
https://imgur.com/a/8JdtRVB
Thanks in advance