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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Ed26 on September 08, 2025, 03:42:45 pm
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Register the appeal and opt for a telephone/online hearing if you can as it's always best to talk to the adjudicator.
You can just say for now:
The contravention did not occur as there was no entry sign establishing Mildmay Road as a permit parking area.
Mr Andersen may suggest adding something on the contravention description.
You can add their map I posted showing the hatched PPA and your pic showing no entry sign.
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I did take pic but unfortunately it was dark yesterday.
https://imgur.com/a/neENhqf
If I register the appeal without detail how long will I have to submit?
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Appeal not registered as yet desperately trying to find original pcn. I will go back the area to see the signs and report back
Register your appeal before you forget. You are simply registering, you are not making it in detail, this can follow later. If you miss the deadline then you could lose your chance to appeal.
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Ok I’ve been back to the area and there is no signage at the start of Mildway Road. Hopefully this goes in my favour?
Yes - my take is each PPA is standalone in this area and needs its own entry sign.
Did you take any pics?
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Ok I’ve been back to the area and there is no signage at the start of Mildway Road. Hopefully this goes in my favour?
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By all means include Mr Andersen's point but don't lose sight of the signage issue and the zone identified by the hatching in the map I posted.
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Objectively, the contravention description in the NTO is c**p. It doesn't exist, therefore no power falls to the authority to demand a penalty.
Seeing the PCN might explain why the authority has c***ed-up, but it wouldn't change the fundamentals: the NTO is grossly defective and IMO any appeal based thereon would succeed.
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Appeal not registered as yet desperately trying to find original pcn. I will go back the area to see the signs and report back
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Below is the relevant part of the traffic order which suggests that the contravention description may be correct if say physical visitor permits are available.
OP - if you can check signage at start of Mildmay Road that would be useful.
Also one relevant appeal that suggest Redbridge doesn't know what it's doing.
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Case reference 2240350574
Appellant No Word LTD
Authority London Borough of Redbridge
VRM BL07BFN
PCN Details
PCN AF07248425
Contravention date 26 Mar 2024
Contravention time 15:26:00
Contravention location Mildmay Road
Penalty amount GBP 130.00
Contravention Parked in permit space without a valid permit
Referral date -
Decision Date 18 Oct 2024
Adjudicator Anju Kaler
Appeal decision Appeal allowed
Direction
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.
Reasons
The agreed facts are that the vehicle was at the stated location as shown in the Civil Enforcement Officer’s photographs and a Penalty Charge Notice was issued. The Authority asserts the location is within a Controlled Parking Zone.
A single yellow line denotes that restrictions apply at certain times during the day. The Authority has uploaded black and white photographs. There are no single yellow lines seen where the vehicle parked. The Zone Entry signs have no meaning here. I allow the appeal.
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Have you registered your appeal?
NOR issued 14 Aug, deemed served Mon. 18th. Latest date of 28-day period is 14 Sept.
Grounds:
Contravention did not occur.
Why?
Because there is no such contravention description as 'parked in a resident's or shared use parking place or zone without either clearly displaying'- the NTO refers. What is it you're alleged not to be displaying.. fluffy dice, Barbie sticker?
As you don't have the PCN we cannot check this.
So far the ONLY correct description is in the NOR(para. 2), but this is a free field and not system generated.
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Your options are to pay £160 or appeal to the tribunal which won't cost any more. You must do one of these very soon as date of formal rejection is 14 August.
I can only think they may not have put a permit parking area entry sign in Mildmay Road as the CEO would probably have taken a pic of it so this would be my appeal
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Vrm P6OYE
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There are a number of permit parking areas here including in Mildmay Road, and they need an entry sign as per the other links posted.
What is the car VRM - you've blanked it. Redbridge have just shown a repeater sign in what you've posted.
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Our route came from the A123 we took a left into Bedford Road and then because of the one way systems followed it down and left into Woodlands Road. Then first left into Albert Road and the onto Mildway Road on the right hand side.
No signs on the google map but I don’t think images are upto date
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It seems Mildmay Road is part of a Permit Zone. So how does one access Mildmay Road ? Well, one way is off Sunnyside Road into Albert Road, which takes you to the entrance to Mildmay Road
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8y2UzVes6LsbBFMR7
As you can see, the permit only signs are there, as they are also at Belmont Road.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bYWSyNyfgYtHaSnP6
So you need to trace your route in GSB, looking for these signs that mark the entrance to the zone. A large zone like this really should have repeater signs.
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The original ticket placed on my car I no longer have. Notice to owner and notice of rejection attached in link
https://imgur.com/a/vmtIYNQ
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If you want help post the materials.
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Yes this is still live.
Last letter was a Notice of rejection.
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Is this still a live PCN?
No markings suggest they've made it a permit parking area, where once you've gone past the entry sign, unmarked kerb is only for permit holders and other parking (eg pay to park) is only in signed bays.
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Question:
Can a local authority enforce parking restrictions on parts of a road that don’t have yellow lines or any road markings?
Specifically Mildway Road ilford, Redbridge https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.557045,0.075528,306.98h,-21.35p,3.35z,6w_E_WJdnvL6_c5k6RULEg
I was parked within a residents’ parking zone, but not in a marked bay or on any of the double yellow lines, and I didn’t have a permit. Since it was Easter Sunday, I believed parking would be free, but I still received a PCN.
Are restrictions still enforceable in this situation, even without road markings?
Any insights or examples would be really helpful