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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Adamdidnotspeed on August 28, 2025, 12:27:32 pm
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Do they not give you the chance to name the driver on the original pcn?
Nope. The whole process revolves round the owner of the vehicle and this is assumed to be the keeper of the vehicle, (as per the V5C Registration Certificate), unless proved otherwise. So in not updating your V5C, you are liable for the debt.
In my view, your TE7 and TE9 is unlikely to succeed as the law is quite clear that the person on the V5C has responsibility for keeping the address up-to-date.
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That is interesting. Do they not give you the chance to name the driver on the original pcn?
Do I stand a chance with the Te7 and Te9?
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For council and TfL PCNs, who was driving is irrelevant. Seems to me that your father should cough up, though.
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I am sorry my etiquette is not right, I don't post on boards like this very much.
The following guides are useful for posting in each section:
Criminal/Speeding::
READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!** (https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!/)
Council:
READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!**, This section is for council, TFL, Dart/Mersey/Tyne etc. cases (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/)
Private:
READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/)
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Hello
Edit: I don't have the notice but the ref is FD28195844 and the regs is SE12NKZ. Sheffield City Council.
I have another post where I am going to have to accept a s.172 charge now I have found out about a Penalty Charge for being in a bus lane. I was not the driver and the V5C was not updated correctly.
I moved to Australia and my father took my car and he told me he would update the log book and I trusted him. The house it was registered to was sold and then he lent the car to his friend.
This charge is from December last year. I was not in the country then.
Bristow & Sutor want £425, which is so much.
I am submitting a Te7 and Te9 that I did not receive the original PCN. I am not sure what my chances are on this.
I have a signed witness statement from the driver saying he was the sole driver on that date. Should I include that when I send the Te7 and Te9?
As a side note, there are also a bunch of private parking tickets coming through, plus the mentioned speeding charge, so these last few weeks have been very stressful and costly.
I am sorry my etiquette is not right, I don't post on boards like this very much.