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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: bebu on August 21, 2025, 09:11:28 am
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ANOTHER WIN
I just got a letter in the post today from TFL waiving my PCN
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrray !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many many thanks guys
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What do you mean by entering your reg on gov.uk?
I would make more of checking - that the tunnel tolls are not included (yet) on the list is a big deal in my view and how would you know that the Blackwall Tunnel is TFL or even what TFL is.
Points noted, I just submitted my appeal.
will revert in due course
Many thanks
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What do you mean by entering your reg on gov.uk?
I would make more of checking - that the tunnel tolls are not included (yet) on the list is a big deal in my view and how would you know that the Blackwall Tunnel is TFL or even what TFL is.
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It's not clear what routes you took, when you say you drove past Dartford do you mean you used the Dartford Crossing on your journey from Yorkshire to south London, then used the Silvertown/Blackwall tunnel on your way back to Yorkshire?
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The Blackwall Tunnel was always free to use, going back years. The new toll charge only became payable when the new Silvertown Tunnel was completed and opened to traffic on the 7th April 2025. So the Silvertown has been chargeable since inception.
Mention that you weren't aware that charges had been introduced on the previously free Blackwall tunnels. Since you don't live near the crossings you would never have received any of the publicity material concerning the new charges. Terribly sorry, an honest mistake, first offence that could happen to anyone and now that you know you will make sure to pay-up next time. It's worth a go.
super many thanks
Hello
APPEAL AGAINST PCN XXXXXXXX
I hereby want to use this medium to appeal against the above issued PCN XXXXXXXXX
I live in Yorkshire, and was visiting my family in London for the weekend and drove past the Dartford bridge and avoided central London congestion charges
On getting back home, I went online and paid the Dartford crossing, ( Kindly see attached evidence) and went on the government website www.gov.uk to search if, I had any other outstanding charges and inputted my vehicle reg, but nothing came up
I hereby ask this charge be waived as a one time GESTURE OF GOOD WILL
REASON FOR WAIVER
1. Firstly I am a software developer and currently out of work. As I lost my job and currently searching for a new job
2. I honestly did not see any signs of payment reminders while driving through
3. I have driven past the tunnel a couple of years back and again never saw any signs
4 Going online, see attachments. I realized this charge was only recently introduced 7th April 2025
In light of the above
I hereby request as a gesture of good will and owing to my currently circumstances of being unemployed to kindly waive the charges
As I have a teenage daughter and currently paying child maintenance and struggling
Many thanks
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The Blackwall Tunnel was always free to use, going back years. The new toll charge only became payable when the new Silvertown Tunnel was completed and opened to traffic on the 7th April 2025. So the Silvertown has been chargeable since inception.
Mention that you weren't aware that charges had been introduced on the previously free Blackwall tunnels. Since you don't live near the crossings you would never have received any of the publicity material concerning the new charges. Terribly sorry, an honest mistake, first offence that could happen to anyone and now that you know you will make sure to pay-up next time. It's worth a go.
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You can certainly try for discretion as an out of towner. The Blackwall/Silvertown tunnel tolls are fairly recent but any blanket allowance by TFL has long passed.
The government toll road page hasn't been updated with these tunnels so that's a good point to mention. I think TFL has a duty to liaise with the gov site on this.
The page doesn't include emission zones or the weight restriction for the Rotherhithe tunnel though but does mention London congestion charging.
But surely it should have the TFL tunnels tolls.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-toll-roads
(https://i.imgur.com/sXE99pc.png)
I see, thats what I thought about initially. As I did not see any signs and I also went to the gov website and did not see anything
I will give it a shot and post a draft soon,
many thanks
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You can certainly try for discretion as an out of towner. The Blackwall/Silvertown tunnel tolls are fairly recent but any blanket allowance by TFL has long passed.
The government toll road page hasn't been updated with these tunnels so that's a good point to mention. I think TFL has a duty to liaise with the gov site on this.
The page doesn't include emission zones or the weight restriction for the Rotherhithe tunnel though but does mention London congestion charging.
But surely it should have the TFL tunnels tolls.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-toll-roads
(https://i.imgur.com/sXE99pc.png)
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Please tell us the details of your journey. On the face of it, it seems you paid for the wrong Thames crossing.
I live in yorkshire and drove to London for a wedding and spent the night. I missed my turning, so had to go over the dartford bridge to get to south London SE28, then proceeded to the venue at n17 6ur.
Then the next day, drove to w21ux and then back to yorkshire
On getting home, I went online to pay the dartford charge and on gov.uk to check if there are any other charges and saw none, until this PCN arrived
Please advice
many thanks
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Please tell us the details of your journey. On the face of it, it seems you paid for the wrong Thames crossing.
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drove past dartford and went online and paid,
So who have you made a payment to ? Your PCN is from Transport for London, not the Dartford Bridge/Tunnel.
No
I meant to say, I have paid for the datford bridge crossing and got a PCN for blackwell tunnel, which is a surprise. As I did not see any signs and I did check the gov.uk website after my return and did not see any pending payment
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drove past dartford and went online and paid,
So who have you made a payment to ? Your PCN is from Transport for London, not the Dartford Bridge/Tunnel.
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You've been on this forum before so you should know the rules.
Please only redact or obscure your name & address where present. Leave everything else visible. That's in the instructions that our global moderator @John U.K. linked to and re-iterated in his response to your initial post.
My sincere apologies, a lot on my mind. Just lost my job, so trying to multi task. Kindly see updated attachments
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You've been on this forum before so you should know the rules.
Please only redact or obscure your name & address where present. Leave everything else visible. That's in the instructions that our global moderator @John U.K. linked to and re-iterated in his response to your initial post.
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hello
Kindly advise on updated post
Images are attached or can be seen here.
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Please to have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and post up here all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave all else in).
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hi guys
I got a PCN this morning from blackwall & silvertown tunnels for £90.
I was in London for a wedding and drove past dartford and went online and paid, I also went on the gov.uk website to check if I have other outstanding PCN, but saw none
HOw do I appeal or go about it ?
Please advice
Many thanks