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Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on April 17, 2026, 08:08:37 am
Good morning,

I have now received email from the DCB Legal, pasting it below. I am understanding correctly that both PCN are now over 6 years (03/01/2020 and 02/04/2020) and I dont need to worry about it or shell I replay to their email, please advise.

Email from DCBLegal:
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Dear Mr ..........,

We write in response to your recent correspondence in response to our Letter of Claim (LOC) and will now respond as follows.

It is our position that the Letter of Claim (“LOC”) is compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (“the Protocol”). The LOC provides adequate information for you to identify the debt that our Client is seeking to recover. We would respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

For the avoidance of doubt, please note that the timeframe in which to appeal the Parking Charge has expired. You were given the opportunity to lodge an appeal when the initial Notice was issued to you. Given that the case has been escalated to this firm for recovery action, the time to appeal has now elapsed and payment of the Parking Charge(s) is now required.

The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. Further, in accordance with the British Parking Association (BPA)/International Parking Community (IPC) Code of Practice, where the Parking Charge becomes overdue and before Court proceedings have commenced, a reasonable sum may be added for the debt recovery fees. The correct recovery fees have been added and will not be removed, for completeness we would advise that the fee is not inclusive of any VAT, as it does not pertain to a supply of goods/services between you and our Client.

To clarify, when parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are thus entering into a contract (by way of conduct) and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.

Attached are copies of evidence pertaining to the matter, however, if there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of the amount as per our Letter of Claim. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.

Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
Sort Code: 20-24-09
Account Number: 60964441
You must quote the correct case reference (711200367294OPC) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.

We would ask that you kindly furnish us with your most up to date telephone number and email address, this can be emailed to us at info@dcblegal.co.uk.

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

Please note that in the absence of payment in the next 30 days, our position remains as previously advised. As such, should our client instruct us to proceed with further legal action, we reserve the right to do so without any further reference to you.

If you are at all unsure of your legal position, we recommend that you seek your own independent legal advice

Kind Regards,

 

Alexandria Owens

Litigation Support Associate

DCB Legal Ltd
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on October 07, 2025, 01:40:08 pm
Thank you, will send an email on the 17th.

Andrzej
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: b789 on October 07, 2025, 11:06:40 am
Hmmm... you may be able to push this past 3rd January 2026 and if the claim is not issued before that date, the first PCN times out and they cannot sue for it.

What are the dates of the actually alleged contravention for each of the PCNs? The 6 year limitation runs from that date, not the issue date of the PCN (NtK). You will need to send a request for documentation (see below). Once that documentation is sent, the 30 day clock starts running again. At the limit of that deadline, then send an email informing them that you require a 30 day hold for debt advice. Hopefully, that would at least take you beyond the statute of limitation for the first PCN. After that, they can issue a claim for the second one and as long as you defend it using our advice, the will eventually discontinue that.

On Friday 17th October (not before and definitely no later than Sunday 19th October) you email the following to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself:

Quote
Subject: Claim [claim number – N279 signed “claimant’s solicitor” (paralegal): authority to conduct litigation & signature compliance

Dear Sir/Madam,

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Subject: Response to your Letter of Claim Ref: [reference number]

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none. That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish the very document you purport to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please provide:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012 liability.

2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between your client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site plan showing the sign locations.

3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.

4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate.

5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes VAT.


I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own obligation under paragraph 6(b).

If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).

Until your client complies and provides the requested material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the above.

Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will only respond by email or post.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]

When you receive their response, let us know and we can then calculate the deadline for send in the debt advice request.
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on October 07, 2025, 09:19:36 am
Hi,

Please see link to second page.

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME16OBPD

Thanks,
Andrzej
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: b789 on October 06, 2025, 12:47:35 pm
Where is the "The details of the Parking Charge(s) can be found in the schedule at the bottom of this letter." page?
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on October 06, 2025, 10:45:21 am
https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME16MXDD
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on October 06, 2025, 10:43:08 am
Thank you.

Hopefully I have done it correct. Let me know if you unable to open it please.

Thank you,
Andrzej

(https://ibb.co/YT2S7gFF)
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: DWMB2 on October 06, 2025, 10:42:00 am
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Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: jfollows on October 06, 2025, 10:38:46 am
Read the READ THIS FIRST as per the link helpfully provided in the previous post.
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on October 06, 2025, 10:35:05 am
Hi,

I feel very stupid now but I have tried to attached it, unfortunately for some strange reason I am not given option to attached anything to that message. Can you advise please?

Thanks,
Andrzej
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: DWMB2 on October 06, 2025, 10:12:54 am
I have now received letter from DCB Legal, please advise what to do next.
We can't advise you on how to respond to a letter we haven't seen. Please show us.

If you have sent a DRN in August and still not heard back, chase.
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on October 06, 2025, 09:51:08 am
Good morning,

I have now received letter from DCB Legal, please advise what to do next.

Also, I have send email in regards DRN on the 22nd of August but had no replay as of yet. Should I follow up on it or no need?

Much appreciate your help.

Kind regards,
Andrzej
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: b789 on August 22, 2025, 01:17:17 pm
Just send the DRN to be sure. If you still have the V5 then you can check it for the date it was last updated, whilst it was in your possession.
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on August 22, 2025, 12:06:17 pm
Thank you for a prompt response,

I don't own the car in question any more, it was sold and of 2020. I am quiet sure that I have changed V5C to my new address (leaving in from 2017)as managed to get some other PCN's (unlawful parking at the hospital site with pregnant wife) for that car in to my address at that time.

Am I able to confirm when address was changed on the V5C if I don't own car any longer?

Kind regards,
Andrzej
Title: Re: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: b789 on August 21, 2025, 09:36:23 am
communicating with the useless DCBL. They are powerless debt collectors and their only ability is to try and persuade the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to pay up out of ignorance and fear.

If this is the first you have heard about these PCNs, then you have to ask yourself whether your V5C was up to date at the times of the alleged contraventions back in 2020. You MUST immediately send a Data Rectification Notice (DRN) to the OBS DPO at john.portway@observices.co.uk and CC in enquiries@observices.co.uk and also yourself.

The DRN must instruct them to update their records with your current address for service and to erase any old address they may have. The highlighted words are there for a reason, so use them.

Check your V5C and make sure it is up to date now. Changing the address on your drivers licence does not update your V5C.

There is not much else you can do for now. When you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC), come back and we can advise you on how to respond. If you follow this advice, you won't be paying a penny to OBS Services.
Title: Notice of Debt Recovery from DCB Ltd.
Post by: Moderdin on August 20, 2025, 06:42:46 pm
Hi All,

I am looking for advice as just return from holiday and found a letter from dcbl ''Notice of Debt Recovery'' for cases from 2020 (January and April).
I was very surprised as have never received any PCN's before.

Can someone please advise what I should do? I have so far send an email to collections@dcblt.com requesting some evidence of alleged offence and some proof of previous PCN's being send to me. Not sure if that was good move or not.

Please advise,

Kind regards,
Andrzej Aumuller