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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: Pokémon on August 09, 2025, 10:21:59 am

Title: Re: Spending
Post by: Southpaw82 on August 12, 2025, 10:40:29 am
It’s 40 all way from Hammersmith to Heathrow
Airport the only part at 30 is that traffic light . So I believe they dint bother with a sign just to catch drivers out and fill there pockets.

The Treasury’s pockets, not theirs.
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: NewJudge on August 11, 2025, 10:20:18 pm
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It’s 40 all way from Hammersmith to Heathrow..

Not according to TfL it isn't:

https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-4294-2425

"In March 2024, the speed limit on the A4 Great West Road was reduced from 40mph to 30mph as part of the Lowering Speed Limits programme. 

With regards to signing of the new 30mph speed limit, the A4 Great West Road is a restricted road. This is defined as a road which has a system of street lighting where the lights are not more than 200 yards apart. Additional 30mph repeater signs are not permitted on restricted roads under current law."
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: JustLoveCars on August 11, 2025, 09:50:43 pm
So I believe they dint bother with a sign just to catch drivers out and fill there pockets.
It seems you didn't read the link I posted.  There are 30mph terminal signs - it seems you simply missed them.

30MPH SIGNS (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sutton+Ln,+Hounslow/@51.4794672,-0.3612442,3a,48.9y,236.22h,88.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5EEYfwP5LTLgO-CZlSb8pA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.9242807303788538%26panoid%3D5EEYfwP5LTLgO-CZlSb8pA%26yaw%3D236.21521023453923!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x48760d2acefc2ad7:0xc5361da3ebf71f27!8m2!3d51.4742599!4d-0.3762952!16s%2Fg%2F1tf2rq5v?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcyMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)

If they didn't 'bother' with signs then you may have a defence…
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: Pokémon on August 11, 2025, 09:33:11 pm
It’s 40 all way from Hammersmith to Heathrow
Airport the only part at 30 is that traffic light . So I believe they dint bother with a sign just to catch drivers out and fill there pockets.
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: NewJudge on August 09, 2025, 10:26:08 pm
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It’s poorly sign posted

It's not sign posted at all and it has a system of street lighting. That's what makes it a 30mph limit.
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: Pokémon on August 09, 2025, 09:31:57 pm
It’s poorly sign posted
I am betting just to catch you out .!
A4 has been 40 mph for ever .
Title: Re: Speeding
Post by: JustLoveCars on August 09, 2025, 05:53:23 pm
I don’t use that road very often but i thought it was 40mph correct me if I am wrong,
To be fair - it used to be a 40 (and 'feels' like a 40).  But the clues that it's a 30 is no speed signage and a system of street lighting which makes it a 'restricted road' which is 30...

This is my first speeding ticket since i started driving at age of 18 .
Getting old now at 51
Well at least you'll be offered a course to avoid the points...
Title: Re: Speeding
Post by: Pokémon on August 09, 2025, 05:49:30 pm
I don’t use that road very often but i thought it was 40mph correct me if I am wrong,
This is my first speeding ticket since i started driving at age of 18 .
Getting old now at 51
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: NewJudge on August 09, 2025, 01:47:47 pm
Out of interest, what made you think that road was subject to a 40mph limit?
Title: Re: Speeding
Post by: Pokémon on August 09, 2025, 12:31:53 pm
Thanks for all information
Much appreciated
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: 666 on August 09, 2025, 11:26:06 am
As above, you must reply naming the driver.

The only way you can then "challenge them" is to ignore any offer of a course or fixed penalty, and plead not guilty when the matter goes to court. Unless you have a valid defence which you have not shared with us, that will result in a finding of guilt, three points on your licence, and a fine and costs approaching Ł1,000.
Title: Re: Spending
Post by: JustLoveCars on August 09, 2025, 11:01:17 am
I was doing 36mph but I thought that road is 40mph !
You thought wrong.  That part is 30mph.

Shall I notify them it was me or challenge them first
You have no choice but to notify the driver unless you want to commit a separate offence carrying 6 points.

See this thread. (https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/35-on-a-30-intersection-on-a-40-road/)
Title: Spending
Post by: Pokémon on August 09, 2025, 10:21:59 am
Has anyone received a letter for spending camera on A4 great west road j/w Sutton lane  W/B TW5 (5003)

I was doing 36mph but I thought that road is 40mph !
Shall I notify them it was me or challenge them first
Any info greatly appreciated?