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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Kwest70 on August 03, 2025, 06:22:34 am

Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 04, 2025, 02:12:05 pm
Thank you
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 04, 2025, 12:53:40 pm
Thanks so far
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: stamfordman on August 04, 2025, 12:51:25 pm
First step is to wait for the order for recovery, and then it's a witness statement that you didn't get the PCN.

We advise calling the Traffic Enforcement Centre in due course to see if Southend has registered the debt as you don't want the OfR going missing too.

You don't need the printed letter to make a witness statement as it can be done by email.
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 04, 2025, 12:45:20 pm
That must have been an image change as they do on Google. Yes that one is correct. https://maps.app.goo.gl/GK1U6cZFynFS6u768

Yes my details were  are correct.
So I can't do anything about it only pay or try to take back to PCN. If I do what's the likelihood of them being lenient as I was dropping of a disabled person.
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: H C Andersen on August 03, 2025, 11:32:01 am
OP, the ins and outs of the contravention are secondary to those of procedure.

You(I presume the Charge Cert is actually addressed to you) have been served with a Charge Certificate. Your ONLY procedural options are:

To pay; or
To wait for the next notice, an Order for Recovery.

See here: https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: stamfordman on August 03, 2025, 11:03:31 am
So no PCN served on you or car?

No postal PCN received?

Are the name and address on the charge certificate correct?

(https://i.ibb.co/1fDd5vY4/s1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Mx7wjvS4/s2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CT8hzpT.png)
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: John U.K. on August 03, 2025, 08:13:46 am
Sorry
VRM CU57PTO
18 London Road. Southend on Sea

Is this the GSV?;

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.540108,0.711096,155.45h,-8.85p,1.67z,Us8-R6ITIWC9fcI8b6MW7w

I couldn't see a taxi rank on the ISV link you posted. Here on GSV (which has no ads) https://maps.app.goo.gl/sBnqDgPnQt9xqZWU7

But there is one here
https://maps.app.goo.gl/GK1U6cZFynFS6u768
Burt only you know where you parked. which was?
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That said, you have a Charge Certificate (dated 28/07/2025). You need the process reset to the PCN stage, so you can make reps or pay as usual. This can be done if you follow process - see
https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/

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they issued the PCN. before I was able to drive off
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I don't recall receiving the PCN either.

which was it?
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 03, 2025, 06:55:11 am
I've not seen any pictures either.
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 03, 2025, 06:52:46 am
The date is on the certificate. 13/06/25
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 03, 2025, 06:51:28 am
When I first pulled up I didn't see the warden. I started unloading. As it takes a moment to get the walker out of the boot they immerged when I was in that process. So the time it took my wife to take it out and get my MIL out they issued the PCN. before I was able to drive off
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 03, 2025, 06:47:46 am
Sorry
VRM CU57PTO
18 London Road. Southend on Sea

Is this the GSV?;
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.540108,0.711096,155.45h,-8.85p,1.67z,Us8-R6ITIWC9fcI8b6MW7w
Title: Re: Parked in a taxi rank
Post by: John U.K. on August 03, 2025, 06:39:56 am
Hi all.
Wondering if you can help. I dropped my disabled mother in law off in town. My car doesn't have. Blue badge. I was parked for literally 2 minutes and the traffic warden stood there behind the car where I couldn't see them and took the details. He could see she was disabled too, she walks with a walker.

I don't recall receiving the PCN either.
Can I do anything at this stage?:


I fear you have left us too much in the dark for any meaningful advice, so please to have a read of this topic (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/)

and to put us in the picture please to answer these questions:

1)What was the date you dropped yr m-in-l off?

2) Where was this? Please provide a GSV link to the location.

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the traffic warden stood there behind the car where I couldn't see them and took the details.

How do you know the warden was there if you couldn't see?

4) Have you received any documents from the Council about this? If so, please post up all sides here (Only redact yr name & address - leave all else in.)
Title: Parked in a taxi rank, dropping of disabled person Southend borough council
Post by: Kwest70 on August 03, 2025, 06:22:34 am
Hi all.
Wondering if you can help. I dropped my disabled mother in law off in town. My car doesn't have. Blue badge. I was parked for literally 2 minutes and the traffic warden stood there behind the car where I couldn't see them and took the details. He could see she was disabled too, she walks with a walker.

I don't recall receiving the PCN either.
Can I do anything at this stage?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N97jHHOwexamnqfBxNLqKT_mrSaOdQ9g/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qBBRxSPJzFIH2Offs-5JFPhMGWX4jfYN/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z8Rn9aNFmvh6Fn4JNfhtgD_wo3hq1GND/view?usp=drivesdk