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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: cbtim on July 30, 2025, 03:20:25 pm

Title: Re: PCN (Advisory Notice Only) arrived late
Post by: cbtim on August 01, 2025, 10:02:10 pm
Hello, I am trying to help a colleague.  Anyway, he decided to pay up, so this matter is now closed.  Thank you for all your help.
Title: Re: PCN (Advisory Notice Only) arrived late
Post by: H C Andersen on July 31, 2025, 09:28:15 am
OP, can we get back to the start pl.

Advisory PCN - dated 20 Jun, 'arrived' 9 July (19 days after posting);
Actual PCN - dated 23 July, arrived 30th. (7 days after posting)

IMO, we need to look at:
Who is the registered keeper;
Are their DVLA details current?


It is improbable(though not impossible) for two items of mail to take this time to arrive at a standard residential address. 
Title: Re: PCN (Advisory Notice Only) arrived late
Post by: stamfordman on July 30, 2025, 11:56:57 pm
Indeed - why did you drive past the signs - it seems to be a new school street zone.

Be aware that Havering does not reoffer the discount on rejection.
Title: Re: PCN (Advisory Notice Only) arrived late
Post by: Incandescent on July 30, 2025, 11:24:08 pm
You should submit representations based on your narrative here; hopefully they will cancel this PCN, although I doubt it, such is the greed for money in councils these days.

You don't say much about the contravention itself. Why did you miss the signs twice ?
Title: Re: PCN (Advisory Notice Only) arrived late
Post by: cbtim on July 30, 2025, 10:07:57 pm
Post both the documents, redacting only name and address.

Both documents posted.  Thanks.
Title: Re: PCN (Advisory Notice Only) arrived late
Post by: stamfordman on July 30, 2025, 03:52:54 pm
Post both the documents, redacting only name and address.
Title: PCN (Advisory Notice Only) arrived late
Post by: cbtim on July 30, 2025, 03:20:25 pm
Hello, my first post here.

A PCN (Advisory Notice Only) dated 20th Jun informing about a contravention on 13th Jun.  No penalty was imposed and the driver was warned that a PCN with penalty charge will be issued for the next contravention.  This notice arrived on 9th Jul (26 days after the date of contravention).

On 27th Jun, the same contravention at exactly the same location happened, this time a PCN was issued with a penalty charge.  The date of the notice is 23rd Jul and it arrived on 29th Jul.

Ground of appeal:

The first PCN (Advisory Notice Only) took too long to arrive.  If it arrived earlier, it is possible the driver will receive the notice in time and pay particular attention, therefore the contravention would not have occurred.

The long delay of the arrival of the PCN (Advisory Notice Only) defeats the purpose of its very existence.

Would this work?

Sorry it is a bit long.



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