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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: Endorfin on July 25, 2025, 12:24:13 pm
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Not necessarily
The Welsh GoSafe campaign encompasses all camera types across all of Wales.
https://www.gosafe.org/about-us/
https://www.gosafe.org/camera-map/
Zoom in to Mostyn and it tells you this location is a fixed camera set at 40 - probably the one posted above in the streetview location.
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Doesn't the document heading 'GoSafe' and the reference to 'Safty Camera Unit' indicate it was a camera van?
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It doesn't say what kind of camera it was
It doesn't need to.
Perhaps, this camera: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3059488,-3.2461516,3a,75y,289.08h,94.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.761013785731549%26panoid%3DhOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ%26yaw%3D289.07895269520174!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcyMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3059488,-3.2461516,3a,75y,289.08h,94.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.761013785731549%26panoid%3DhOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ%26yaw%3D289.07895269520174!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcyMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
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The A548 may run for many miles, but Mostyn is a fairly small place and it seems the limit is 40mph in the bits I've looked at, such as here:
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@53.313316,-3.25993,278.41h,1.16p,1z,ls7Gxkt0AegX5zVXoqN-jA
Whether the driver can say they were speeding is not relevant at present. The recipient of the request for driver's details must respond to it by naming the driver at the time and place mentioned.
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Re: "leeway" - prosecution begins at 10%+2 so a NIP for 46mph in a 40 limit is to be expected.
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Posting this one on behalf of family member.
NIP for doing 46mph in a ???? zone, it doesn't say.
It doesn't say what kind of camera it was
The location is vague, the A548 Mostyn runs for many miles.
That stretch of road has various speed limits of 60, 40 and including 20 and there are fixed speed cameras as well as average speed cameras along that stretch. Mobile speed camera vans sometimes.
Driver is a professional driver so strives for a clean licence (no points in at least 35 years) and knows the road extremely well so is quite surprised and puzzled by the alleged offence.
Driver is unable to know whether they were speeding or not if it doesn't say what the limit was or giving a more precise location.
If it was a 40mph limit then wouldn't 46 put it within the 10% + 2mph leeway guidelines some forces follow?
Before the driver sends off their details I said I'd consult here 1st.
NIP was received within 14 days, to driver's partner who is the registered keeper, returned forms naming the driver and new NIP received today.
(https://i.imgur.com/tq4YBi1.jpeg)
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