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Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: DWMB2 on February 25, 2026, 06:19:29 pm
The letter with the hearing date should also specify a date for the submission of evidence, witness statements etc. What date is this?
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on February 25, 2026, 05:57:30 pm
Good afternoon,

I received 2 letters from court , 1 is the Notice of Trial Date for April 17, saying that "unless the claimant does by 4:00pm on the 19 March 2026 pay to the court the trial fee of £27 or file properly completed application for help with the fees, then the claim will be struck out with effect from 19 March 206.

The other letter is a Notice of Allocation to the Small Claims Track (Haering) saying that the court believes that my case is suitable for mediation..... I do not understand, why the offer that again ? we already passed that option...

Also received an email from DCB Legal : "To assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our Client may be prepared to settle this case. I can confirm our Client would be agreeable to £135.00 in full and final settlement of this Claim. The current outstanding balance is £288.24."

What are the chances that they pay the court fee? If I have to face the hearing, can I win ?

Please let me know how to proceed,
Thanks.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: InterCity125 on February 05, 2026, 04:15:34 pm
Do not respond to DCB Legal - they are now trying to mitigate their losses.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on February 05, 2026, 04:03:44 pm

Good afternoon,

I finally got the letter on he post, copy below:

I guess the next step will be to wait for a "Hearing Date" allocation if they pay the court fee correct ?

Whta's the next step ?  because DCB Legal keeps calling to my home phone number with a machine message saying they have an important mesage for me.... I hang up all the time.

Looking forwrad to heraing from you soon,

Thanks in advanced, for your help and support .

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Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on December 19, 2025, 10:56:18 am
Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I will let you know when I received the documents by post.

I am trully grateful for all the support, the patient and the understanding.

Hope everyone here have a Lovely Christmas Time.

Thanks Thanks Thanks !!! :)
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on December 17, 2025, 12:56:00 pm
Mediation is not a judicial stage of the claim. It is not a hearing, no judge is involved, no evidence is considered, and nobody makes a decision about who is right or wrong. It is simply a settlement chat run by the Small Claims Mediation Service. The mediator cannot give legal advice, cannot order the claimant to do anything, and cannot strike out the claim. The only purpose is to see whether both sides will agree a deal. In private parking claims, it is very often a waste of time, but it is still a hoop the system expects parties to jump through.

So what happens after mediation, if it does not settle, is not “because of mediation” and not because you have failed at something. It is simply the normal continuation of the case you already set in motion when you filed the N180.

At that point, the court process resumes. The file is dealt with administratively, not by a judge. Because you have already filed the N180, the next step is allocation and transfer. You will then receive a Notice of Allocation (or a transfer notice with directions) telling you that the claim has been transferred out of the Civil National Business Centre (CNBC) to your local county court hearing centre. The reason for transfer is straightforward: small claims hearings are normally handled locally, so the local court becomes responsible for listing the case and giving the standard directions.

Yes, transfer to your local court is the route that leads to a hearing if the claim is not settled or discontinued. It does not mean a hearing is definitely happening; it means the court is preparing the case for one. You will be notified, usually by post, with the order/directions and either a hearing date or wording that it will be listed later.

In these parking claims, what happens next is that DCB Legal will let it run on until the hearing is getting close, and then discontinue shortly before they would have to pay the £27 hearing/trial fee. They do that to avoid paying the fee and to avoid the risk of losing at a hearing. That is why you can be told, truthfully, that it will go to your local court “in due course”, and also be told, realistically, that discontinuance is going to happen later on. Both statements can be correct at the same time.

Bottom line: mediation is not a “stage before the judge”. It is a non-judicial settlement hoop. If there’s no settlement, the case simply carries on, and the next formal thing you should expect is the transfer/allocation paperwork from the court.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: jfollows on December 17, 2025, 12:25:42 pm
Search the forum for many similar cases involving DCB Legal if you want to know more. They discontinue before paying the court fee, which comes later in the process, as @Brenda_R2 advises.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Brenda_R2 on December 17, 2025, 11:56:59 am
Good morning,

I am litle bit confused, my understanding was that after the "mediation call" I only needed to report the name of the person from the Claimant and the position, which I did , and hopefully this will never reach a hearing in front of any judge and they will discontinue... but now you are sying :
"It will be sent to your local county court in due course and you'll receive a Notice of Allocation and further orders."

I am sorry but I am lost (maybe in trasnlation) , if will sent to my local county court it will be for a hearing ? I guess thsi will be notify to me by post ?

It's all part of the chain of events that you have to follow to get this dismissed.

Have faith in the advice you are receiving from b789 and others - they're experts in these matters and know their stuff  :)
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on December 17, 2025, 11:51:55 am
Good morning,

I am litle bit confused, my understanding was that after the "mediation call" I only needed to report the name of the person from the Claimant and the position, which I did , and hopefully this will never reach a hearing in front of any judge and they will discontinue... but now you are sying :
"It will be sent to your local county court in due course and you'll receive a Notice of Allocation and further orders."

I am sorry but I am lost (maybe in trasnlation) , if will sent to my local county court it will be for a hearing ? I guess thsi will be notify to me by post ?
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on December 15, 2025, 05:26:37 pm
It will be sent to your local county court in due course and you'll receive a Notice of Allocation and further orders. Show those when you receive them. Nothing is discontinued until after that stage.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on December 15, 2025, 04:51:39 pm
Good afternoon,

Could you please let me know what happend after the mediation?
When I will know if they decided to move forward to a hearing or if they will acctually discontinue and close the case ?

what happen next ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on December 11, 2025, 01:29:35 pm
Thanks , I will send the complaint right now.

I also just got this email:

Mediation Not Settled
Claim number: ********

Parties: CIVIL ENFORCEMENT LIMITED v ************

Thank you for using the Small Claims Mediation Service today.

Although a settlement could not be reached on this occasion the parties are reminded that Court is considered a last resort and in which case both parties are encouraged to continue to communicate where possible in an attempt to resolve the claim, you may find that today's mediation gives you both a base upon which to build on.

If the parties can satisfactorily resolve the matter without the need of the Court, the Claimant should complete a notice of discontinuance using the appropriate form in the link and file it with the appropriate Court; N279 - w3 Notice of discontinuance (6.99) (publishing.service.gov.uk) or update Online Civil Money Claims through your account.

If not already done so. the claim will now be transferred out of our business centre to a court where standard directions will be given and you will be notified in writing of the next stages to follow. It is important that both parties follow these instructions and adhere to the timetable set down by the Court which will include a further court fee and a final hearing for determination of the matter. Further information can be found at; Make a court claim for money: What a court claim is - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Many thanks for your participation in Mediation.

If you require any further information please contact us at the below details.

Civil National Business Centre | HMCTS | St Katharine's House 21-27 St Katharine's Street | Northampton | NN1 2LH
Phone: 0300 123 4593
Email: scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk




Looking forward to hearig from you for the next steps to follow.
Thanks.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: jfollows on December 11, 2025, 01:13:03 pm
Yes, if she told you that you get a recorded CCJ for six years if you lose, this is simply untrue because even if you lose, as long as you pay the required amount within 30 days the record will be removed.

It sounds like she is siding with the claimant to attempt to frighten you into paying up and to avoid bothering the court.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on December 11, 2025, 01:10:52 pm
You don't need her name. Just email the following complaint to scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself:

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COMPLAINT – conduct of mediator at Small Claims Mediation Service appointment on 11 December 2025 – [Claim No: XXXXXXXX]

To whom it may concern,

I write to make a formal complaint about the conduct of the mediator who handled my Small Claims Mediation Service (SCMS) appointment on 11 December 2025 in the matter of Civil Enforcement Ltd v [Your Full Name], claim number [XXXXXXXX].

The appointment was scheduled in the 09:30–12:30 time slot on 11 December 2025 and conducted by telephone from a withheld number. The mediator was a female mediator from the SCMS. Unfortunately, I did not catch her name.

During the call, the mediator made a number of statements which, in my view, were inappropriate, inaccurate and inconsistent with the neutral role a court-appointed mediator is required to perform.

1. Misrepresentation of the effect of defending the claim (CCJ risk)

The mediator told me that the Claimant was “not ready to close the case” and that it would now be put “on a list for a Hearing in Court in front of a Judge”. She then went on to say that if it went to court it was “50/50” whether I would win and that if I lost “this will not be good for you and you will get a CCJ that will affect your credit score and stay on your records for 6 years.”

That is simply wrong and highly misleading. A County Court Judgment is only registered and affects a person’s credit record if any judgment is not paid within the statutory period (usually one calendar month). The mediator did not explain this at all. Instead, she presented a CCJ damaging my credit file for six years as the automatic and inevitable consequence of exercising my right to defend the claim at a hearing.

This was not a neutral or balanced explanation of the process; it was a one-sided and inaccurate description which amounted to pressure to settle.

2. Inappropriate legal opinion and prediction of outcome (“50/50” comment) by an unqualified person

The mediator told me that if the case went to a judge, it was “50/50” whether I would win, and that if I lost it would be “not good for me” because of an inevitable CCJ. That is, in substance, a legal opinion and prediction of outcome.

I appreciate that mediators may outline, in general terms, that litigation carries risk. However:

• The mediator’s comments were phrased as a definitive prediction (“50/50” and “you will get a CCJ”), not as a neutral explanation that either side could win and that there are consequences if a judgment is not complied with.
• She went beyond facilitating negotiation and stepped into the role of a legal adviser, despite there being no indication that she is an “authorised person” or otherwise qualified under the Legal Services Act 2007 to give legal advice or conduct reserved legal activities.
• No basis was given for the asserted “50/50” assessment or for the highly misleading statement that a CCJ would automatically arise and sit on my file for six years.

Unless this mediator can demonstrate that she holds a recognised legal qualification and authorisation under the Legal Services Act 2007, she has no business giving legal opinions or outcome predictions to litigants in person. In my view, this is so far removed from the standard expected of a neutral, court-appointed mediator that it should trigger at least a formal warning and a serious review of whether she is suited to this role at all, unless she can evidence appropriate legal training and authorisation.

3. Undermining of neutrality and confidence in the mediation process

The SCMS literature I received emphasised that mediators are neutral and that mediation is a confidential process aimed at helping the parties explore settlement. What I experienced instead was:

• A mediator who appeared to adopt and repeat the Claimant’s position that the matter “will” go to a hearing because they were “not ready to close the case”.
• A mediator who overstated and mischaracterised the consequences of defending the claim, by suggesting that an adverse judgment would automatically and inevitably result in a six-year CCJ on my credit record.
• A mediator who gave what amounted to legal advice and a prediction of outcome, rather than remaining neutral and facilitating discussion.

This undermined my confidence in the impartiality of the SCMS. I felt I was being warned off exercising my legal rights by someone calling from within the court system, using the authority of that position to pressure me into a settlement.

4. Impact on me as a litigant in person

I am a litigant in person with limited experience of the civil court process. Hearing from a court-appointed mediator that going to a hearing would “result in a CCJ” which would damage my credit record for six years caused me considerable distress and anxiety. I was left with the impression that simply allowing the case to proceed in the normal way would automatically and irreversibly damage my financial standing, regardless of whether I complied promptly with any judgment.

That impression is plainly wrong in law, and should never have been conveyed by a mediator acting under the auspices of the court.

My requests

Given the seriousness of the above, I request that you:

1. Retrieve and review the recording(s) of my mediation appointment on 11 December 2025 in claim [XXXXXXXX].
2. Confirm whether the statements described above – including the statement that I “will get a CCJ” that will remain on my record for six years simply if I lose at a hearing – are in line with SCMS training, guidance and standards for mediators.
3. Confirm what action will be taken in relation to the mediator concerned, including any remedial training, supervision, or disciplinary steps, to ensure that litigants in person are not subjected to inaccurate and intimidating statements about CCJs and court proceedings.
4. Confirm that a clear note will be placed on the court file that I did in fact attend and engage with mediation, and that I will not be criticised for refusing to be pressured into a settlement based on misinformation about CCJs.

I appreciate that mediators have a difficult role, but there is a clear line between explaining, in neutral terms, that litigation carries some risk and what actually happened in my case: a combination of inaccurate statements about the legal consequences of losing and a definitive prediction of outcome that had the practical effect of pressuring me to abandon a legitimate defence.

I look forward to your written response to this complaint and to confirmation of the outcome of your review.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]
[Your Postal Address]
[Your Email Address]
[Your Telephone Number]
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on December 11, 2025, 12:51:54 pm
She literaly told me that the Claimant was not ready to close the Case, that they will put the case on a "List" for a Hearing, and she need it to explain me that if this go to court in front a Judge it's a 50/50 if I win good for me , but if I loose this will not be good for me and I will Get a CCJ that will affect my credit score and stay on my records for 6 years.

Indeed I would like to complaint about her, how can I do that, I did not got her name .
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on December 11, 2025, 11:18:37 am
If the mediator actually told you that you will get a CCJ over this, then they have way overstepped their position and I would advise you to make a forma complaint to the SCMS about this mediator.

I can guarantee you that this will never reach a hearing in front of any judge and they will discontinue.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: jfollows on December 11, 2025, 11:02:29 am
What exactly were you told?
I imagine you were not told that you will receive a CCJ, but if you were told this you need to complain about the mediator.
All that you should have been told is that the claimant may make a claim against you, which you will have to defend.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on December 11, 2025, 10:59:36 am
OK Good morning,

I just got the mediatoon Call, and they confirm :

Full Name of the person attending is: Kye Horabin
His Role : Mediation Associate
And Yes he hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

I follow your instruction and keep my position saying: My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no orders as to costs.

The Mediator lady just called me back and said that the Claimants is not going to close the case, and this is now going to be on list for a Hearing in Court in front of a Judge and it will occure in a CCJ to me.

How we proceed next ?

Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on November 29, 2025, 06:32:25 am
Just block their number. Ignore them. This is just the precursor to them discontinuing.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on November 28, 2025, 06:15:05 pm
Good evening,

I just got a call from DCB Legal, traying to have a "settlement" conversation with me, I asked them why they are calling me if we aleady got a Mediation call, and this lady insist they just wanted to talk to me to avoid the mediation... I said I have nothing to talk to them until the mediation call. When I ask for her name, she just hang up.

is this normal ?
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on November 14, 2025, 12:31:04 pm
Thanks for your prompt reply, I just got another email from DCBlegal "Emely@dcblegal.co.uk"
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Dear .....
We write further to your recent correspondence pertaining to the Parking Charge issued on 25th February 2023. 

For the avoidance of doubt, it is not DCB Legal’s obligation to provide the details you have requested at this time as we are unable to confirm the individual who is attending the appointment on our behalf. 

It is our position that our Directions Questionnaire is fully complaint and will not be re-filed and served. 

We confirm receipt of your signed copy of the Directions Questionnaire and note that Mediation has now been booked in for 11th December 2025. Within your appointment, you will be able to enquire the name and role of the Individual acting on behalf of DCB Legal; however, we confirm they will be fully authorised to conduct the appointment.

Kind Regards,

Emily Maloney
DCB Legal Ltd 


Tel: 0203 838 7038 | DX 23457 Runcorn
dcblegal.co.uk | Twitter | Linkedin | Facebook
*******************************************************************************************

I will proceed as per your instructions, on the mediation call requesting
• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

I understand that all I need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back in here.

Hopefully it will be over within minutes.

Thanks again for all your help and support.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: DWMB2 on November 12, 2025, 02:10:13 pm
I do not understand why they decided to take me in the whole court process if the the odds of actually having to go to a hearing are slim to none... what's the benefit to do it all ? 
It's a numbers game - these firms issue thousands upon thousands of claims each year. Enough people pay up at some stage of the process to make it worth their while to escalate them as far as possible. The few they lose (and therefore lose money on) are vastly outweighed by the ones who pay.

What is the purpose of the "Mediation" call, just trying to scare me and continue to push/try  until they to get money from me ?
Mediation has been made mandatory in small claims cases - it's not the claimant who has chosen to participate per se. It's of potential benefit in other types of claim, but largely pointless in these cases.

What exactly means "if the mediator probes my defence" ???
If they start asking you questions about it or to justify your points. There is no need to get into such a discussion in the mediation call.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on November 12, 2025, 02:03:48 pm
Thanks for your support, apologize for my lack of knowlege using the incorrect terms.
I am jus trying to understand the whole process, I do not understand why they decided to take me in the whole court process if the the odds of actually having to go to a hearing are slim to none... what's the benefit to do it all ? 
What is the purpose of the "Mediation" call, just trying to scare me and continue to push/try  until they to get money from me ? 

What are all the scenarios of this "mediation call" more than ask me to agree to pay ?

What exactly means "if the mediator probes my defence" ???

Sorry for so many questions, I just want all this to be over and forget about it.

Thanks.



Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on November 11, 2025, 06:19:17 pm
What do you mean "if they take me to court"? They have "taken you to court" in that they have issued a claim against you and you are now in the process of defending against that claim!

For the mediation call, the only requirement is for you "attend" the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved.

This is what I advise you to say when you receive the call from the mediator:

Before I set out my position, please confirm from the claimant’s side:

• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

Please relay that back to me before we continue.

After the mediator calls back...

If identified and authority confirmed:

Thank you. I’m content to proceed on that basis. My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no order as to costs.

If no/unclear authority:

Please record that the claimant’s attendee has not confirmed settlement authority. My position remains that liability is denied and my offer is £0, subject to prompt approval by an authorised solicitor if they choose to discontinue.

If the mediator probes your defence:

In what capacity are you asking that question? Are you legally trained?  If not, please refrain from offering opinions. I will be reporting any attempt to do so as inappropriate.”

All you need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back to us. It will be over within minutes. Complete waste of time otherwise.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on November 11, 2025, 03:34:37 pm
Good morning,

Thanks for your recomendation, I will follow your instructions, already got an email from : NoReply_SCMS_Confirmation@justice.gov.uk with a Mediation date, and a request for me to confirm with my phone number, copy bellow:

**************************************************************************************************************************
Your telephone mediation appointment
Appointment date: 11/12/2025

Appointment time slot: 09:30 to 12:30

Your confidential telephone mediation appointment has been booked for the above date and time slot. The mediator may call at any point within your timeslot to start the appointment. Please be ready to accept a call at any point during your timeslot. Your appointment will last for around one hour from the point at which the mediator calls. The mediator will call from a withheld number. Make sure that withheld/private numbers are not blocked on your phone.

The mediator will call both parties separately – you will not talk directly to the other side. They will try to help you come to an agreement with the other party. If an agreement is reached at mediation the case will not need to progress to court.

Where your mediation appointment is mandatory, if you do not attend the appointment, the judge will take this into consideration at any court hearing and may issue a penalty. This could include the judge automatically ruling in the other party’s favour or ordering you to pay for some or all the other party’s costs.


What you need to do to prepare for your telephone appointment:
• ACTION:
The mediation service requires a contact number to conduct the appointment, please reply to scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk.

PLEASE MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE YOUR CASE/CLAIM NUMBER IN THE RESPONSE TO THE EMAIL.
If YOU will be attending the mediation appointment YOURSELF, please provide us with your full name and the best telephone number so the mediator is able to call you.
If you would like SOMEONE ELSE (like a trusted friend, relative or a solicitor) to attend on your behalf please fill out the attached delegation of authority to mediate form. Your representative must know the facts of the case, understand how far you’re willing to compromise and have full authority to act on your behalf. You’re legally bound to any settlement agreements your representative makes on your behalf.
Failure to provide contact details will result in your mediation appointment not taking place and will result in a Judge issuing a penalty where the mediation was mandatory.
If the mediator cannot contact you within 10 minutes of the appointment start, the appointment will be marked as not conducted and you may face a penalty for non-attendance.
Make sure you are in a suitable location for the appointment that is free from distractions. The mediator will cancel the appointment immediately if you are driving even if you are using a hands-free device.
The dates to avoid which you provided on your Directions Questionnaire were taken into account when booking your appointment. We are only able to re-book appointments in exceptional circumstances.
Please see attached documents for more information about what happens within your mediation appointment.
• Small Claims Mediation Service contact details
If you have any complaints or issues to raise about the Mediation Service, contact us by email or telephone:

Email:  scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk

Telephone: 0300 123 4593

Webchat: Chat with an agent

Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm

We record our calls for monitoring and training as it helps improve the service we deliver. If you want to know more about how we handle your personal data, visit https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/your-data-and-how-we-use-it

If you want to make a complaint by email, clearly title your message as ‘complaint’ in the subject field. 

*********************************************************************************************************

What happend if after the mediation, they indeed take me to court, which chamces i got to win ? If I got to court this will affect my personal records ?  Do I need to worry ?

Thanks in advance for your kind help and support.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on October 15, 2025, 03:39:19 pm
You will get an appointment for medication call. Just follow the advice I will give below.

You have been taken to court! You are now in the court process. However, the odds of you actually having to go to a hearing are slim to none.

For the mediation call, the only requirement is for you "attend" the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved.

This is what I advise you to say when you receive the call from the mediator:

Before I set out my position, please confirm from the claimant’s side:

• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

Please relay that back to me before we continue.

After the mediator calls back...

If identified and authority confirmed:

Thank you. I’m content to proceed on that basis. My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no order as to costs.

If no/unclear authority:

Please record that the claimant’s attendee has not confirmed settlement authority. My position remains that liability is denied and my offer is £0, subject to prompt approval by an authorised solicitor if they choose to discontinue.

All you need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back to us. It will be over within minutes. Complete waste of time otherwise.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on October 15, 2025, 08:15:48 am
Thanks for your help and guidance, I just sent the email with the N180.
What Happen next ? What Should I do if they call me for a mediation? or If they take me to court?
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: jfollows on October 10, 2025, 07:53:44 am
https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/posting-images/#new tells you how to post images

The forum is full of instructions on how to deal with the N180

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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on October 10, 2025, 07:47:03 am
Thanks for your help and support, email sent!

Now I got another letter by post dated 30/09/2025 "Notice of Proposal Allocation to the Small Claims Track" in the Civil Naional Business Centre with an Important Notice: "If you do not comply with this otice the court will make such order as appears to be appopriate. This could include striking out the claim or entering judgment.
it has attached the N180 questionanaire just filled with the nae of the court and the claim number filled by hand but nothing else.

and it saying I must complete the Form N180 and file it with the court office by 17 october 2025.

Please let me know how to proceed .

Thanks.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on September 30, 2025, 02:26:07 pm
Send the following email to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself:

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Subject: Claim [Claim No] – Directions Questionnaire (N180) and covering letter signed “DCB Legal”: authority to conduct litigation, signature validity, service by email, and regulatory notice

Dear Sir/Madam,

I refer to (i) the Directions Questionnaire (N180) and (ii) your covering letter dated [date] filed/served in this matter. Each document is signed only “DCB Legal” with no named individual and purports to be signed on behalf of the Claimant’s solicitor.

Please confirm by return:
1. The signatory’s full name (forename and surname), their role, and whether they are an authorised person within the meaning of the Legal Services Act 2007 with current rights to conduct litigation (provide SRA or CILEX number and practising status). If not authorised,
2. The precise exemption relied upon under Schedule 3 of the Legal Services Act 2007 that permits this individual personally to conduct litigation and sign these documents in these proceedings (if relying on a court order, provide the sealed order; if relying on an enactment, identify it precisely).

For the avoidance of doubt:
• Preparing, signing, filing, or serving a Directions Questionnaire is an act of conducting litigation, a reserved legal activity.
• Practice Direction 22 requires the signatory’s full name and capacity when signing on behalf of a party; a firm’s name or initials alone are not sufficient for verification of authorisation.
• Following Mazur v Charles Russell Speechlys LLP [2025], unqualified employees may assist but cannot themselves conduct litigation unless authorised or exempt.

Action required:
• Confirm the above within 7 days.
• Re-file and serve a compliant N180 personally signed by an authorised (or exempt) individual, with their full name and capacity clearly stated. Please also identify the individual who signed the accompanying covering letter and confirm their authority.

Costs and regulatory notice:
If any document was signed by a person not authorised or exempt, or must be re-filed/served to correct the signatory’s identity/status, I, as a litigant in person, will treat this as unreasonable conduct. In line with Mazur and CPR 27.14(2)(g), I will invite the Court, in its discretion, to order the Claimant to pay the Defendant’s costs caused by your firm’s irregular conduct and, if appropriate, to consider wasted costs against representatives.

Further, carrying on a reserved legal activity without entitlement is a criminal offence under the Legal Services Act 2007. If any unauthorised conduct of litigation has occurred, I will report the matter to the Solicitors Regulation Authority without further notice and reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court.

Yours faithfully,

[Full Name]

[Postal Address]
[Email]
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on September 30, 2025, 12:35:57 am
Good evening,

Thanks for your prompt response,to answer your questions:


1. Has that letter been signed by an individual showing their full name (no initials) and their position within the company? NO
2. Has the copy of their N180 Directions Questionnaire (DQ) been signed by someone with their full name (no initials) and state their capacity? NO

No, as far as I can read, there is no signature nor full name of anyone as responsible for either the letter sent by email or the N180 Form. They only signed the N180 Form as DCB Legal.
The email address came from a diferen email adress, apparently from DCB legal, but it's not the same used on the N180 Form.


I am really sorry but I do not know how to attached copy of both documents here, cant' find the attachement option I am afraid. 

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Thanks again for your help,
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on September 29, 2025, 11:08:02 am
You MUST be very specific and clear when you make statements such as:

...I also received an email on 17/09/25 (that I just found ) from Civil Enforcement with and attachement [sic] of the N180 saying this:...

Are you 100% sure that the email you are referring to above is from Civil Enforcement? Or is it from DCB Legal, on behalf of their client, CEL?

A response to your defence is normal and expected. However, please answer the following questions:

1. Has that letter been signed by an individual showing their full name (no initials) and their position within the company?
2. Has the copy of their N180 Directions Questionnaire (DQ) been signed by someone with their full name (no initials) and state their capacity?

Please show us both the letter from DCB Legal and the last page of their clients DQ with the signature block. No need to redact anything except your own personal details.

There reason I ask is because I believe that DCB Legal are using unauthorised persons to conduct litigation which is a criminal offence under the Legal Services Act 2007 and, depending on your answers to the above questions and showing us the evidence of the signatures, will require a response which we will provide.

If you want to understand the reason why, have a read of this thread:

Why the recent High Court appellate case of Mazur is very relevant to all cases we deal with here (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/why-the-recent-high-court-appellate-case-of-mazur-is-very-relevant-to-all-cases-/)
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on September 29, 2025, 12:53:06 am
Thanks for all the help, indeed I received a letter from HM Courts & Tribunal Services with the "Acknowledge receipt of my defense" and I also received an email on 17/09/25 (that I just found ) from Civil Enforcement with and attachement of the N180 saying this:

Good morning


Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.

In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court.

Without Prejudice to the above, in order to assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our client may be prepared to settle this case - in the event you wish to discuss settlement, please call us on 0203 434 0433 within 7 days and make immediate reference to this correspondence.

If you have provided an email address within your Defence, we intend to use it for service of documents (usually in PDF format) hereon in pursuant to PD 6A (4.1)(2)(c). Please advise whether there are any limitations to this (for example, the format in which documents are to be sent and the maximum size of attachments that may be received). Unless you advise otherwise, we will assume not.


What should I do now ? Coudl you please advise how to proceed ?

Thanks,


Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on July 22, 2025, 06:34:37 pm
You should receive a letter from HMCTS acknowledging receipt of your defence and that it has been sent to the claimant. You will also receive a letter from the claimant acknowledging receipt of your defence and that their client intends to proceed.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on July 22, 2025, 04:43:42 pm
Thanks for your guidance and support, as the MCOL web page still do not recognized my claim number nor password, I sent the email to both addresses.

What is the next step ? I guess just wait for an answer by email or post?

Should I expect DCB Legal to get in contact ?   
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: DWMB2 on July 22, 2025, 02:15:20 pm
Worth checking if MCOL is back up and running before you do, I'd say.

If you do have to email it, I would be minded to also CC in the email address suggested on the MCOL website, for a belt and braces approach.
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on July 22, 2025, 02:00:34 pm
Did you submit an AOs? If yes, then you have until 6th August to submit the defence. If you are going to email it to them, then you may as well just send it as we normally suggest to the CNBC at claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk.

Here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Civil Enforcement Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Civil Enforcement Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tcewefk7daozuje25chkl/Strikeout-order-v2.pdf?rlkey=wxnymo8mwcma2jj8xihjm7pdx&st=nbtf0cn6&dl=0)
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on July 21, 2025, 10:55:55 pm
Thanks a lot for your kind help, I had been trying to do it on the web page, but it's not recognising either the claim number or password, showing on the claim received by post. It could happend? could i call somewhere to confirm and get advise? what should I do? 

Thanks,

After keep trying on several times on the web page I got this mesaage :
*************************************************************************************************************
Money Claim Online Service outage



We are undertaking essential work on the MCOL site and service, therefore you cannot access your case at this time.

Where you are a defendant and today is the last day to file a response, you can either

Fax the paper version you were served with to us on Tel No 0845 601 5889; or,

Email a copy to us by downloading the appropriate form for:

An Acknowledgment of Service

A defence or part admission


then sending this to us at mcol@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk

We apologise for any inconvenience caused and would like to assure you that we are working to restore the service as quickly as possible.
*********************************************************************************************************
Can I send the Defence by email to their email address (mcol@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk) ?
Title: Re: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: b789 on July 21, 2025, 02:42:34 pm
With an issue date of 4th July, you have until 4pm on Wednesday 23rd July to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Wednesday 6th August to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Normally we wouldn't advise using MCOL to submit the defence but due to recent systemic failures at the CNBC, it has been adapted so that it can be copied and pasted into the MCOL webform and should keep most of the formatting. So, go into MCOL and submit the following as your defence. Simply copy and paste as is here:

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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant
asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no
debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately
disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim
(PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made
against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply
with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the
PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause
(or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or
contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons)
why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract
(or contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly
where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach
occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked
before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is
calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest,
damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the
parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is
sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant
cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out
similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately
comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of
Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or
explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity. In
comparable cases, judges have found that requiring further case
management steps in claims of modest value would be
disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective.
Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this
case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by
striking out the claim due to the Claimant’s failure to
adequately comply with CPR 16.4. In those cases, the court
further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring
further case management steps would be disproportionate and
contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge
struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an
amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be
made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars
of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim
do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because:
(a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause
(or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which
is (or are) relied on; and
(b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why
the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of
contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it
served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have
done pursuant to CPR PD 7C.5.2(2), but chose not to do so.

AND upon the claim being for a very modest sum such that the
court considers it disproportionate and not in accordance with
the overriding objective to allot to this case any further share
of the court's resources by ordering further particulars of
claim and a further defence, each followed by further referrals
to the judge for case management.

ORDER:
1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or
stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at
this Court not more than 5 days after service of this order,
failing which no such application may be made.
Title: how to deal with Claim Form 2 // from CEL - July 04
Post by: Looking4Justice on July 21, 2025, 12:04:33 am
AS per your instructions, I separated the claims, this is the one from Civil Enforcement Limited.

looking forwrad your guidance to proceed with the defence.

Thanks in advanced for your kind help.


 

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