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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: ParkingLobster72 on July 20, 2025, 08:47:28 pm

Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: b789 on September 21, 2025, 08:52:12 pm
The mediation phone call is not part of the judicial process and the mediation is not a trained legal professional. If not agreement is reached at mediation, it has absolutely no effect on anything going forwards.

The odds of this case ever reaching a hearing where you would be required to attend a hearing are less than 1%. Even if it did and you were not successful, the amount you would be ordered to pay would be less than the claim amount because the courts do not allow the aded fake £70 added.

That is not going to happen.

For the mediation call, the only requirement is for you "attend" the call. This is what I advise you to say when you receive the call from the mediator:

“Before I set out my position, please confirm from the claimant’s side:

• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

Please relay that back to me before we continue.”

After the mediator calls back...

If identified and authority confirmed:

“Thank you. I’m content to proceed on that basis. My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no order as to costs.”

If no/unclear authority:

“Please record that the claimant’s attendee has not confirmed settlement authority. My position remains that liability is denied and my offer is £0, subject to prompt approval by an authorised solicitor if they choose to discontinue.”

All you need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back to us. It will be over within minutes.
Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: ParkingLobster72 on September 21, 2025, 04:39:02 pm
ok,

what exactly do I say on the phone?

will I actually attend court?

What are the chances I am ordered to pay this?

Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: b789 on September 21, 2025, 03:27:48 pm
After the N180 has been submitted you will have to "attend" a mediation phone call where you offer £0 and then it is transferred to your local court where you will receive instructions on dates/deadlines and then, eventually, the claim is either struck out or discontinued.
Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: ParkingLobster72 on September 21, 2025, 03:04:21 pm
Thank you so much.

I have filled this in and sent it off.

What are the next steps? What should I expect?

This is really fraying my nerves.
Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: jfollows on September 21, 2025, 10:43:17 am
Search the forum for

N180

and you will very quickly find

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Having received your own N180, do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and <the lawyers representing Horizon> and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: ParkingLobster72 on September 21, 2025, 10:03:43 am
Hi,

I have received notice that this is now a defended claim?

On Friday while I was at work I got a letter in the post dated 03/09/25 that I need to complete a N180 and file it with the court and other parties by tomorrow.

What the hell do I do?
Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: b789 on July 27, 2025, 10:22:45 am
Yes, that defence is valid and should be submitted ONLY through the MCOL portal. Do not try and submit any other way.
Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: ParkingLobster72 on July 27, 2025, 08:23:12 am
Hi b789,

Thank you for your reply.

Is this defence confirmed now?

Should I send it through the post or fill in the online form? Or both?

I completed the AoS online as I panicked that I would run out of time.

Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: b789 on July 21, 2025, 12:25:50 pm
With an issue date of 7th July, you had until 4pm on Monday 28th July to submit your defence. As you have submitted an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS), you now have until 4pm on Monday 11th August to submit your defence.

Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the "system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that far.

I am meeting with a judge tomorrow to clarify exactly what wording can be included in the defence if submitted through MCOL and will be able to provide the necessary wording for your defence later tomorrow or Wednesday.

The following is the wording I am suggesting but please do not use it until I can confirm. When it is confirmed or amended, you would copy and paste it into the defence text box on MCOL. It has been checked to make sure that it will fit into the 65 characters per line and 122 lines limit. This defence is specifically for claims where the claimant has failed to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a):

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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The
Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the
Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without
merit and does not adequately disclose any
comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars
of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal
allegations made against the Defendant such that the
PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC
because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached
to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause
(or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the
contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or
reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has
breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity
exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when
the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the
vehicle was parked before the parking charge was
allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is
calculated, including the basis for any statutory
interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is
the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the
Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the
vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes
of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously
struck out similar claims of their own initiative for
failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a),
particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to
specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the
alleged breach with sufficient clarity. The Defendant
refers specifically to:

- Civil Enforcement Ltd v Chan (2023), Luton County Court,
HHJ Murch, ref: E7GM9W44

- CPMS Ltd v Akande (2024), Manchester County Court,
HHJ Evans, ref: K0DP5J30

In both cases, the claim was struck out due to identical
failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

5. The Defendant invites the Court to strike out this
claim of its own initiative. The Defendant relies on
the judicial reasoning set out in Chan and Akande, as
well as other County Court cases involving identical
failures to adequately comply with CPR 16.4. In those
cases, the court further observed that, given the modest
sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would
be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding
objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim
outright rather than permitting an amendment. The
Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the
particulars of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars
of claim do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because:
(a) they do not set out the exact wording of the
clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of
the contract (or contracts) which is (or are) relied
on; and
(b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or
reasons) why the claimant asserts that the defendant
was in breach of contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR
16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars
of claim, as it could have done pursuant to CPR PD
7C.5.2(2), but chose not to do so.

AND upon the claim being for a very modest sum such
that the court considers it disproportionate and not
in accordance with the overriding objective to allot
to this case any further share of the court's
resources by ordering further particulars of claim
and a further defence, each followed by further
referrals to the judge for case management.

ORDER:
1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside,
vary or stay this order by application on notice,
which must be filed at this Court not more than 5
days after service of this order, failing which no
such application may be made.
Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: ParkingLobster72 on July 20, 2025, 09:35:13 pm
Hi,

Thanks for the quick reply.

It is for "Failure to pay for Parking", originally from Horizon, then passed to Debt Recovery Plus.

The incident was on 25/02/2024, the issue date on the claim is 07/07/2025.

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Title: Re: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: b789 on July 20, 2025, 08:57:12 pm
Please show us the N1SDT claim form with the Particulars of Claim (PoC). only redact the claim number, your personal info and the MCOL password. Leave everything else visible, especially all dates.

Who is acting for Horizon? What is the issue date of the claim? What is the claim for?
Title: Horizon Parking - Court Papers received - Water Gardens Harlow
Post by: ParkingLobster72 on July 20, 2025, 08:47:28 pm
Hi All,

I have been sent court papers for an unpaid PCN my ex got while using my car. He promised me he would deal with it, but we have gone our separate ways and I do not know where he is. I have had letters from Horizon Parking Limited but have not responded to any as I thought he was looking after this.

I have filled out the acknowledgement of service online and so now have 28 days to defend this claim.

Any and all advice would be much appreciated. This is the last thing I need thrown on my plate now.

I will take all relevant paperwork to the office tomorrow and scan it in.

I've read the "READ THIS FIRST" thread but I am feeling so very overwhelmed.

Please help me write a defence for this.

Thank you in advance  :)

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