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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: Zibster on July 16, 2025, 10:46:09 am

Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: jfollows on August 13, 2025, 08:33:35 am
Quote from: Zibster on August 13, 2025, 08:16:28 am
I can't see a link or post anywhere to donate to the costs of running the server of the site - is there one?
No.
Donate some of the money saved to a charity of your choice, better them than the (rather profitable) parking companies.
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: Zibster on August 13, 2025, 08:16:28 am
I can't see a link or post anywhere to donate to the costs of running the server of the site - is there one?
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: b789 on August 11, 2025, 04:07:24 pm
Well done. I have my third one cancelled today and there is a fourth which is under DVLA investigation because they issued two PCNS for the same event. One for "Use of a Pick up/Drop off zone without making a valid payment" and another one for "Pick up in Drop off". Both on the same date and time, but the PCNs were issued on different dates.

Already had the initial DVLA fob-off with this flabbergasting statement from them: "As these PCNs were issued for two separate contraventions, albeit on the same day, there is no evidence that APCOA Parking (UK) Limited has breached the KADOE contract." Needless to say, this has gone to stage 2 and will be going to my MP and to ICA if they do not evidence a proper investigation into why they made two separate DVLA requests for my data for the same parking event.

Hey ho!
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: Zibster on August 11, 2025, 03:33:19 pm
Hi all, my update is that the Parking Charge fine has been cancelled.
Thank you all again  :)
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: b789 on July 17, 2025, 11:54:54 am
Just use the wording exactly as advised. It will be cancelled. I already have two from a couple of weeks ago and will receive another one when I drop my family off on Saturday.

As long as they have no idea of the drivers identity, they cannot do anything about it if you point out their dilemma.
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: Zibster on July 16, 2025, 12:02:50 pm
Yes, I am the registered keeper.
Thanks for the wonderful advice. I'll keep you informed how it goes.
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: ixxy on July 16, 2025, 11:56:12 am
Probably haven't removed the the barriers yet, I think they've gone from T3 now. I know there is lots of signage up saying pay within 24 hours. The land may be covered by bylaws though so outside the scope of POFA if you don't blab who was driving. DWMB2 beat me to it.
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: DWMB2 on July 16, 2025, 11:54:27 am
As Manchester Airport is subject to byelaws, it is subject to "statutory control", and as such, not relevant land for the purposes of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act, meaning they cannot hold the keeper liable. You could therefore appeal along the lines of the below:

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ______) for vehicle registration mark _______, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I am appealing as the registered keeper of the vehicle. There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act").

Even if you were seeking to do so, as Manchester Airport is not "relevant land" as defined by The Act you are unable to recover the charge from me, the keeper.

I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,

If appealing online, make sure there are no drop down boxes etc. that force/trick you into revealing who was driving - you are appealing as the keeper, and saying nothing about who was driving. If you are not the registered keeper of the vehicle, tell us before appealing.
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: Zibster on July 16, 2025, 11:51:11 am
Quote from: ixxy on July 16, 2025, 11:23:12 am
Was it the drop off zone? They went ANPR pay later some months ago. The barriers being up is not grounds to appeal, you will need to find some other technicality, so you need to share the PCN.
Yes, at the drop off zone.
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: Zibster on July 16, 2025, 11:50:14 am
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Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: ixxy on July 16, 2025, 11:23:12 am
Was it the drop off zone? They went ANPR pay later some months ago. The barriers being up is not grounds to appeal, you will need to find some other technicality, so you need to share the PCN.
Title: Re: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: DWMB2 on July 16, 2025, 10:48:39 am
Show us the PCN.
Title: Manchester Airport T1 exit barriers up
Post by: Zibster on July 16, 2025, 10:46:09 am

I dropped my daughter off at Manchester airport T1 last week, on exiting all of the barriers were up so I assumed there was a fault and drove straight through.
Today I received a parking charge for mon-payment.
Is this appealable?

The cynic in me thinks its an invitation to avoid stopping and they could make a killing if they did this every day to increased their revenue significantly.