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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: Tony B on July 15, 2025, 01:37:31 pm

Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: DWMB2 on January 09, 2026, 08:53:59 am
If you would like advice on your own case do please start your own thread.
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: flubber on January 08, 2026, 07:44:06 pm
Hi all.

I have read your thread thoroughly. Having found myself fall foul of this too. Same location and very similar dates, within a week. I sent zero correspondence back to them.

I have received a letter from the court; saying I must respond using their enclosed form within their time frame. If I don't the claimant could request a CCJ.

I understand @jfollows seems to know a thing or two.  8) Be nice to know your opinion if possible.

Also @Tony B. I noticed you attached some images on your opening message to this thread. I am unable to view these. Presumably they are of the inadequate signage close to the dates. I don't suppose I could have copies of these?

Kind Regards,
Flubber
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: AJV on September 20, 2025, 10:20:41 am
Thank you for your advice.
I'll sit tight and wait for the next communication from them! As a matter of interest the sit has now mysteriously become a Pay and Display location????
Kind regards
AJV
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: DWMB2 on September 17, 2025, 02:11:35 pm
Debt collector letters can be ignored. You should come back if you receive a Letter of Claim, either from I Park Services themselves or, more likely, a legal firm acting on their behalf.
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: Tony B on September 17, 2025, 12:05:48 pm
Posting this on behalf of the registered keeper. It's reached the next stage of escalation.

An appeal wasn't made to IAS, as it was believed to be a waste of time. With hindsight, this was a mistake as another person had their appeal upheld owing to inadequate signage.

Signage has now been lowered and added to.

(https://i.imgur.com/d4nDJ1Z.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1lEYzZh.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6zBa7oL.jpeg)

I'll leave this to the RK to take advice/answer questions.
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: DWMB2 on September 16, 2025, 09:31:43 am
What "30 day notices"? Please show us.

I assume your IAS appeals were both unsuccessful?
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: AJV on September 16, 2025, 09:25:46 am
Hello
Forgive me if this is a duplicate e-mail, I'm having a bit of bother with my lap topI just wanted to inform you that I have just received  two 30 day notices for my PCNs.
What do I do next?
Many thanks
AJV
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: b789 on July 17, 2025, 11:58:29 am
Just appeal to the IAS with the following:

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I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability for this parking charge and appeal in full.

The parking operator bears the burden of proof. It must establish that a contravention occurred, that a valid contract was formed between the operator and the driver, and that it has lawful authority to operate and issue Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) in its own name. I therefore require the operator to provide the following:

1. Strict proof of clear, prominent, and adequate signage that was in place on the date in question, at the exact location of the alleged contravention. This must include a detailed site plan showing the placement of each sign and legible images of the signs in situ. The operator must demonstrate that signage was visible, legible, and compliant with the IPC Code of Practice that was valid at the time of the alleged contravention, including requirements relating to font size, positioning, and the communication of key terms.

2. Strict proof of a valid, contemporaneous contract or lease flowing from the landowner that authorises the operator to manage parking, issue PCNs, and pursue legal action in its own name. I refer the operator and the IAS assessor to Section 14 of the PPSCoP (Relationship with Landowner), which clearly sets out mandatory minimum requirements that must be evidenced before any parking charge may be issued on controlled land.

In particular, Section 14.1(a)–(j) requires the operator to have in place written confirmation from the landowner which includes:

• the identity of the landowner,
• a boundary map of the land to be managed,
• applicable byelaws,
• the duration and scope of authority granted,
• detailed parking terms and conditions including any specific permissions or exemptions,
• the means of issuing PCNs,
• responsibility for obtaining planning and advertising consents,
• and the operator’s obligations and appeal procedure under the Code.

These requirements are not optional. They are a condition precedent to issuing a PCN and bringing any associated action. Accordingly, I put the operator to strict proof of compliance with the entirety of Section 14 of the PPSCoP. Any document that contains redactions must not obscure the above conditions. The document must also be dated and signed by identifiable persons, with evidence of their authority to act on behalf of the parties to the agreement. The operator must provide an agreement showing clear authorisation from the landowner for this specific site.

3. Strict proof that the enforcement mechanism (e.g. ANPR or manual patrol) is reliable, synchronised, maintained, and calibrated regularly. The operator must prove the vehicle was present for the full duration alleged and not simply momentarily on site, potentially within a permitted consideration or grace period as defined by the PPSCoP.

4. Strict proof that the Notice to Keeper complies with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), if the operator is attempting to rely on keeper liability. Any failure to comply with the mandatory wording or timelines in Schedule 4 of PoFA renders keeper liability unenforceable.

5. Strict proof that the NtK was posted in time for it to have been given within the relevant period. The PPSCoP section 8.1.2(d) Note 2 requires that the operator must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)

6. The IAS claims that its assessors are “qualified solicitors or barristers.” Yet there is no way to verify this. Decisions are unsigned, anonymised, and unpublished. There is no transparency, no register of assessors, and no way for a motorist to assess the legal credibility of the individual supposedly adjudicating their appeal. If the person reading this really is legally qualified, they will know that without strict proof of landowner authority (VCS v HMRC [2013] EWCA Civ 186), no claim can succeed. They will also know that clear and prominent signage is a prerequisite for contract formation (ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67), and that keeper liability under PoFA is only available where strict statutory conditions are met.

If the assessor chooses to overlook these legal requirements and accept vague assertions or redacted documents from the operator, that will speak for itself—and lend further weight to the growing concern that this appeals service is neither independent nor genuinely legally qualified.

In short, I dispute this charge in its entirety and require full evidence of compliance with the law, industry codes of practice, and basic contractual principles.

Come back when they reject that and you will receive advice on what to do next. This will be a protracted process and will conclude in around nine months to a year after a claim is issued, defended and then either struck out or discontinued.
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: jfollows on July 16, 2025, 02:26:28 pm
See also
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Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions (2023) where the judge dismissed the claim because a single timestamp on the NtK does not show a "period of parking" and was therefore not PoFA compliant and the Keeper could not be liable.
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: AJV on July 16, 2025, 02:24:49 pm
Many thanks for your advice!
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: jfollows on July 16, 2025, 02:10:12 pm
As expected, I guess.

They have no legal cause to pursue the registered keeper, their statement to this effect is untrue.

You can appeal to the IAS if you want, knowing that it will cost IPark money if you do, but they’re not in any way independent and will find against you.

Note how they never refer to your key appeal point, non-compliance with PoFA 2012. Their words are just waffle.

If you don’t appeal to the IAS, ignore everything from debt collectors and come back if you receive a Letter of Claim, which will give you 30 days to respond.

Their tactics are to lie, ignore, and otherwise try and intimidate you into payment. I suggest no further dialogue of any sort because you risk identifying the driver, and they will ignore anything you say which is detrimental to their case anyway. They only want your money.

You will only need to set out out your stall in terms of a detailed defence when this goes to court, after which IPark will either fold or a court will uphold your arguments against them.
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: AJV on July 16, 2025, 01:59:47 pm
Hello
I have just received a negative reply from IPark on both counts. I have attached the letter(s) for your kind perusal but they are as you intimated threatening action against the keeper if the driver's details are not forthcoming?
Do I just sit tight or enter into dialogue with them?
Many thanks for your assistance in this matter.
Kind regards
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: jfollows on July 16, 2025, 10:21:38 am
Do not identify the driver!
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
A standard appeal is
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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. Ipark has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
Your appeal will probably be rejected, however. Come back here if/when it is.
Legislation at https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4 for information.
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: AJV on July 16, 2025, 09:51:18 am
Good Morning Mr Fellows

I believe a close friend of mine has e-mailed regarding my parking charges on the former Car Care Shop in Garstang.
The driver on both occasions on each visit lasted no longer than five minutes and caused no obstruction.
The shop had closed down several weeks earlier and the shop frontage was regularly used by locals when the shop was closed. The driver not notice the signs affixed to the window surrounds on the shop, they are hardly noticeable and are approx.2.4m high up on the wall.

Kind regards

Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: Tony B on July 15, 2025, 02:15:45 pm
If the keeper wants to do this, they must come here themselves, it will be hopeless if you insist on being in the middle.

Appreciate your prompt and candid response.  :)

I'll forward on the details to them. 

Tony
Title: Re: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: jfollows on July 15, 2025, 02:00:45 pm
There is no period of parking specified on the notice, a single time is not a period, so if the driver is not identified the liability for the driver’s actions can not be transferred to the registered keeper, contrary to the incorrect statement made.

Any appeal will be rejected, the IAS are hopelessly compromised and not independent at all, so they will also deny the appeal. The keeper will probably be taken to court, have to submit a defence, and in due course the case will be discontinued. There is no money to be made once the expense of actually attending court is factored in, but the parking company and their lawyers will do their best to intimidate the keeper into paying up before they give up.

If the keeper wants to do this, they must come here themselves, it will be hopeless if you insist on being in the middle.
Title: I Park Services Ltd. No E-Permit - Former Car Care Shop Garstang PR3 1EA
Post by: Tony B on July 15, 2025, 01:37:31 pm
An acquaintance (really) of mine has received two NtK notices from I Park. Dated the 8th and 9th of July 2025.

Briefly, a recently closed shop premises has been relet (though it is still empty). People have been
using its four parking spaces as it’s next to a Post Office.  Cameras and signs have since been installed.

The vehicle was parked for a few minutes each time. If the exact duration is important, I’ll ask. The driver maintains they didn’t see any signage, though now accepts it was there.

I have no relation to the car or the driver, just someone who has recognized that they need some help.

Relevant images:

(https://i.imgur.com/2LTUdm3.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yhgVfIH.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/x0ca7t3.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iqS73N1.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/n0FnZYw.jpeg)

StreetView:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/nMx1AU7NXfL8enLh8

The driver is seeking advice on what the next steps should be.

Many thanks…