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Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: b789 on November 06, 2025, 03:27:16 pm
No. It's good. She confirmed the name and that she had "written authority" to conduct the negotiation.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on November 05, 2025, 11:01:46 pm
Hi @b789 , not sure you’ve seen my response. I’ve added the details you requested

The details are:
Emily Maloney
litigation support associate
Yes to holding written authority

Is there anything you want me to do with this or was this for information only?

Thanks a lot for your help!
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on November 01, 2025, 05:49:18 pm
Thank you. It was strange, when we asked for the details, the mediator mumbled something along the lines of “ok, so this is to do with the zoom case”. I think they said zoom but almost trying to point out that they knew where we were going with the question we asked.

The details are:
Emily Maloney
litigation support associate
Yes to holding written authority

The mediator said we would get the above details in writing.

Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: b789 on October 30, 2025, 01:36:41 pm
So, what is the name of the person and their position? There was a reason you were advised to ask this.

You most certainly should make a formal complaint about the mediation. The mediator is not legally trained. They should not be offering ANY advice, impartial or otherwise.

All you had to say besides that was advised was that the claimant has a copy of your defence and you are not prepared to icuss it with a non-legally trained mediator. You were told that this is not part of the JUDICIAL process.

If the mediator made it stressful for you, then submit a formal complaint by email to scmenquiries@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself, along these lines:

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Subject: Formal Complaint – Improper Conduct and Partiality of Mediator

Dear Sir or Madam,

I wish to lodge a formal complaint concerning the conduct of the mediator who handled my recent small claims mediation between [Defendant’s name] and DCB Legal Ltd on [date].

The mediator’s behaviour was wholly inappropriate and contrary to the principles of neutrality, impartiality, and non-advisory facilitation that underpin the Small Claims Mediation Service. During the session, the mediator:
• Appeared partial towards the claimant’s representative, repeatedly emphasising that “prices will go up” and implying that I should settle to avoid higher costs.
• Sought to interrogate me, pressing for details of my legal position and the basis for offering £0, despite being told that this matter is a judicial issue to be determined by the court, not by a mediator.
• Asserted incorrect legal propositions, including that DCB Legal’s use of the DVLA-registered address precludes any challenge to liability — a statement that demonstrates both partiality and a misunderstanding of the law.
• Created an atmosphere of undue pressure and stress, leading me to feel intimidated rather than assisted in exploring a voluntary resolution.

The role of the mediator is not to advise either party, evaluate the merits, or act as an intermediary advocate for settlement. This particular mediator demonstrated a clear lack of neutrality and legal competence, undermining confidence in the mediation process itself.

Given the distress caused and the apparent departure from the service’s standards, I request that this complaint be formally investigated, that a record be made against the mediator concerned, and that I receive an apology. If the conduct described aligns with a pattern of similar complaints, I would urge the Service to review this individual’s suitability for the role.

Please confirm receipt of this complaint and advise of the process and expected timeframe for your investigation.

Yours faithfully,

[Full name]
[Case reference or claim number]
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: jfollows on October 30, 2025, 11:07:20 am
You should make a formal complaint about the mediator, for lacking impartiality and attempting to make you settle, for making baseless threats and insisting on examining your defence, all of which sounds like happened.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on October 30, 2025, 10:53:23 am
Dear all,

we had the mediation appointment and it wasn’t as quick as expected. DCB legal did provide the name of the representative and position. also confirmed they had written authority.

However, the mediator kept pushing and to me, seemed quite partial towards DCB legal. wanted to know what our defence was and the basis of us offering £0 and denying liability.

Told them we weren’t driving at the time and that we never received the original letters. The mediator kept insisting that the prices will go up even more and that DCB would have sent the letters to the address on DVLA so cannot deny liability on that basis.

Anyway it was a rather stressful experience :(
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on October 17, 2025, 05:33:28 am
Ah ok. Thank you so much - we’ll ignore them ;)
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: b789 on October 16, 2025, 09:09:39 pm
You DO NOT, ever, EVER, communicate with a useless and powerless debt collector. You can safely shred any letters from them and use the result as Hamster bedding for anyone cares.

The debt collector is not a party to any contract allegedly breached by the driver. All they can do is try and intimidate the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of ignorance and fear!

Do not ever think about entering into communication with a debt collector. If there is more than 1 PCN for this location. it is too late for them to add it to the claim and trying to do so in a separate claim is an abuse of process and can be used against them as a cause of action estoppel.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on October 15, 2025, 09:53:43 pm
Mum has sent me a picture of another letter she’s received from dcdl - final notice of debt recovery.

The contravention date seems to be around the same period as the others so we are very confused as to why this one wasn’t grouped with the others. We are also unsure whether there are other tickets we don’t know about.

Shoud we:
- respond to this final notice of debt recovery to say we will be grouping this together with the others under this court case?
- Or ignore and wait for it to get to the same stage as the court letter so we can follow the same process
- Or we ring them to say she wasn’t the driver?
 Or anything else? It’s all very confusing as she never got the original parking tickets so doesn’t know where all these are coming from.

Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on October 15, 2025, 09:47:41 pm
thank you so much - I’ll do as advised. Fingers crossed!

Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: b789 on September 30, 2025, 02:30:07 pm
For the mediation call, the only requirement is for you "attend" the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved.

This is what I advise you to say when you receive the call from the mediator:

Before I set out my position, please confirm from the claimant’s side:

• the full name of the person attending for them;
• their role/position at their legal representative’s firm; and
• whether they hold written authority to negotiate and settle today.

Please relay that back to me before we continue.

After the mediator calls back...

If identified and authority confirmed:

Thank you. I’m content to proceed on that basis. My settlement offer is £0, or I invite the claimant to discontinue with no order as to costs.

If no/unclear authority:

Please record that the claimant’s attendee has not confirmed settlement authority. My position remains that liability is denied and my offer is £0, subject to prompt approval by an authorised solicitor if they choose to discontinue.

All you need to know is the name and the position of the person acting for the claimant and report that back to us. It will be over within minutes. Complete waste of time otherwise.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: DWMB2 on September 30, 2025, 09:05:12 am
Have a search on here for other cases that have progressed to court and you will see numerous accounts of how the mediation process goes.

The key is to offer £0, and not to get drawn into any discussion about the merits of your case, and it should all be over fairly swiftly.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on September 30, 2025, 08:47:52 am
Morning all! I’ve now received the mediation appointment. It says I’ll have an hour and would need to be explain what happened & my defence.

Should I just say exactly what happened or is there a legal wording I should use instead?

Sorry if this is a silly question 🙈
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: b789 on August 23, 2025, 04:21:25 pm
Don't send it before you see that yours has been sent in your MCOL history, otherwise wait until you receive the letter with yours before sending the N180 as advised.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on August 23, 2025, 03:27:50 pm
Thank you so much. I’ll complete the form downloaded via the link you shared and send it.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: b789 on August 23, 2025, 01:19:17 pm
All normal and as expected. Standard boilerplate stuff. You are waiting fro your own N180 Directions Questionnaire to arrive by post. However, just follow this advice:

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on August 22, 2025, 09:01:27 pm
Hi all - mum has now received a letter (see attached) plus an N180 form.

Please can you advise on next steps?
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 13, 2025, 05:53:41 pm
@b789, thank you so much. I’ll do it now! :)
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: b789 on July 13, 2025, 11:23:18 am
DO NOT use the defence linked to. It is the wrong one!!! PE claims issued by DCB Legal never comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) as there is no cause of action stated.

Having submitted an AoS, you have until 4pm on Monday 4th August to submit the defence.


Here is the defence and link to the draft order and relevant transcripts that go with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send all the documents as a single PDF attachment (in the order of 'defence', 'draft order' and then the 2 'transcripts') in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of ParkingEye Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

ParkingEye Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant cites the cases of CEL v Chan 2023 [E7GM9W44] and CPMS v Akande 2024 [K0DP5J30], which are persuasive appellate decisions. In these cases, claims were struck out due to identical failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). Transcripts of these decisions are attached to this Defence.

5. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4.(1)(a). The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Failed to explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

6. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zc23txk7poctyyxiv2ytx/Strikeout-order-1-a-v2.1.pdf?rlkey=pancly3z6zwqt2cra5rvvh3ls&st=nq7a58tz&dl=0)

CEL v Chan Transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nb9ypbecuurpmln00dily/CELvChan-appeal-transcript.pdf?rlkey=7mpuvpmpe45s2zbhch21om1ez&st=i8dnbod3&dl=0)

CPMS v Akande Transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y631olc61z1slr6xfrdsk/CPM-v-AKANDE.pdf?rlkey=kltpojedcxiwarxr0sdfyjo05&st=qi4lv3fv&dl=0)
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 11, 2025, 10:28:37 pm
Thanks all for your help - I’ve submitted the AOS in my mum’s name.

Should I go ahead and submit the defence using the sample wording shared in similar DCB cases or should I wait to discuss further because my Mum’s case is over £500? 
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 11, 2025, 04:27:50 pm
I’ll complete the acknowledgment form today.
Perhaps an obvious point (but one worth making as we've seen this go awry previously) - if the claim form is addressed to your mother, the AoS will need to be done in her name and not yours.

Thanks for pointing this out - could have easily made this mistake as I’ll be helping her with the form. Ha
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 11, 2025, 04:25:42 pm
The only issue is that the claim form you've posted does not say what you claim this mysterious court letter says.

Just wanted to clarify whether there was some other letter that  you decided not to post, or whether you were just lying to us.

Oh I see what you mean. The first attachment states the amount (which is £857 odd), the second attachment is the cover letter which says that if she doesn’t respond, a CCJ may be issued against her.

The 3rd attachment under the “judgement” section says that if judgment is made against her, then she will get a CCJ.

Thanks
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: DWMB2 on July 11, 2025, 03:14:31 pm
I’ll complete the acknowledgment form today.
Perhaps an obvious point (but one worth making as we've seen this go awry previously) - if the claim form is addressed to your mother, the AoS will need to be done in her name and not yours.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: andy_foster on July 11, 2025, 03:08:58 pm
The only issue is that the claim form you've posted does not say what you claim this mysterious court letter says.

Just wanted to clarify whether there was some other letter that  you decided not to post, or whether you were just lying to us.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 11, 2025, 03:06:02 pm
Thanks Richard & HC - I’ll complete the acknowledgment form today.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 11, 2025, 03:01:39 pm
Mum has now received a court letter asking her to pay hundreds of pounds otherwise she’ll get a ccj.

Can you post that letter with personal detail redacted?

Hi Andy - I think I’ve redacted the personal details. Please let me know if there are any issues
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: H C Andersen on July 11, 2025, 02:24:23 pm
The form informs her of her options.

Pay the whole amount - not recommended;
Pay some and contest some - again not recommended;
Dispute the whole claim - recommended.

If to dispute then no later than 19 days after the date on the front of the  notice(30 June):

To file a defence - not recommended given what sketchy details we have;
Acknowledge service - recommended using the simple form which should have been enclosed.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: andy_foster on July 11, 2025, 02:05:12 pm
Mum has now received a court letter asking her to pay hundreds of pounds otherwise she’ll get a ccj.

Can you post that letter with personal detail redacted?
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: RichardW on July 11, 2025, 10:38:20 am
If you complete the AOS this will give more time to sort out the defence.  As this claim is over £500 things are different - hopefully b789 will see this and advise.
Title: Re: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 11, 2025, 06:53:01 am
Hi team - I’ve just found a similar scenario to mine on how to file a defence and what to expect. I’ll follow the steps here:

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/dcbl-private-parking/   
Title: Parkingeye court letter (DCB Legal) CCJ
Post by: Adegaw on July 10, 2025, 10:17:11 pm
Dear all - my mum has received a court letter regarding some parking tickets from parking eye.

My mum, the registered keeper, at the time had recently had a knee replacement done and at the same time, had to sell her property (she was one of the mortgage prisoners that couldn’t keep up with payments)

While she wasn’t able to drive, the driver was driving  her car and got some parking tickets they weren’t aware of. Mum also didn’t know about the tickets.

When mum was feeling better, we were able to sort out her redirects to the new property and received a debt recovery letter. We contacted the number a few times to try to explain that she wasn’t the driver but they wouldn’t help.

Mum has now received a court letter asking her to pay hundreds of pounds otherwise she’ll get a ccj. She’s a pensioner and doesn’t have that money, can you please help?

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