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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: AlexandraJ on July 07, 2025, 03:13:33 pm
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I have had a reply to my appeal:
https://ibb.co/j9S530s6
https://ibb.co/TMnb0B6Q
Looks like I need to appeal to the London tribunals now :)
I'll PM you. Hold fire please.
@Incandescent Havering don't either! I get my H,s mixed up but not with N,s. ;D
I must be getting old ! Actually, I am.
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I have had a reply to my appeal:
https://ibb.co/j9S530s6
https://ibb.co/TMnb0B6Q
Looks like I need to appeal to the London tribunals now :)
You've left your personal details.
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I have had a reply to my appeal:
https://ibb.co/j9S530s6
https://ibb.co/TMnb0B6Q
Looks like I need to appeal to the London tribunals now :)
I'll PM you. Hold fire please.
@Incandescent Havering don't either! I get my H,s mixed up but not with N,s. ;D
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I have had a reply to my appeal:
https://ibb.co/j9S530s6
https://ibb.co/TMnb0B6Q
Looks like I need to appeal to the London tribunals now :)
Yes, it's a complete no-brainer as Newham no longer offer the discount
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I have had a reply to my appeal:
https://ibb.co/j9S530s6
https://ibb.co/TMnb0B6Q
Looks like I need to appeal to the London tribunals now :)
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Thank you so much , to be clear your saying I should keep records of the form I return as it’s hard copy?
Do it all online and save it all. The grounds page in particular.
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Thank you so much , to be clear your saying I should keep records of the form I return as it’s hard copy?
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I make these formal representations against the EN and PCN.
There is no proof of any alleged contravention as the video does not show any upright signage allegedly passed. Therefore, please cancel both documents.
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Before you do this, screenshot and copy the grounds page and save everything.
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BTW: the 28 days is calculated from the date of service which is the 16th October. Therefore, 12th November. Best do it today though.
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This is next on my list.
Meanwhile, please save this as a screenshot:
A - The alleged Contravention did not occur
B I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of contravention
- I had sold the vehicle before that date
- I had bought the vehicle after that date
- I have never owned that vehicle
C - The vehicle was taken without my consent
D - We are a hire firm and have supplied details
E - The Penalty Charge exceeds the relevant amount
F - There has been a procedural impropriety by the Enforcement Authority
G - The traffic order contravened is invalid
H - The Notice should not have been served because the Penalty Charge had already been paid
I - Other
The parts in red are wrong.
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Hi I have to reply to this as I don’t want the extra £80 to be added to this.
What do I do next ? Pay it?
Of course you don't pay it ! Instead you register an appeal with London Tribunals. The penalty remains the same and there are no additional costs. Make this venal and rapacious council to some real work for a change.
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Hi I have to reply to this as I don’t want the extra £80 to be added to this.
What do I do next ? Pay it?
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The CC is for a 31J PCN. Box junction. Different numbers too.
https://ibb.co/NdZfrCDB
Is your name and address on this?
What grounds are on their website?
Local rag.
Councillor Ray Morgon - no relation - is the leader.
Hi! Can you have a look at my appeal reply and help me please /)
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Sorry I don’t know what edited wrong content means?
This is the letter I need assistance with. I have appealed the original PCN with help from @Hippocrates
Now I have a reply.
https://ibb.co/hxmFmpn0
https://ibb.co/ycGXWwVZ
https://ibb.co/MkXJKwq6
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Can anyone assist me with the response to my appeal?
Thank you… very worried now
edited wrong content
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Can anyone assist me with the response to my appeal?
Thank you… very worried now
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OMG and I’m so sorry I didn’t mean to add the yellow box one on here as I thought I paid that fine so it was added in error… omg I have another fine to pay now. Accept my apologies I didn’t realise as I thought it was paid :(
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The CC is for a 31J PCN. Box junction. Different numbers too.
https://ibb.co/NdZfrCDB
Is your name and address on this?
What grounds are on their website?
Local rag.
Councillor Ray Morgon - no relation - is the leader.
Clearly I spoke too soon, but I was in a rush (as usual !!)
It would be nice if the OP could actually have separate threads for what must be two separate PCNs !
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The CC is for a 31J PCN. Box junction. Different numbers too.
https://ibb.co/NdZfrCDB
Is your name and address on this?
What grounds are on their website?
Local rag.
Councillor Ray Morgon - no relation - is the leader.
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My God, aren't Havering absolutely useless !
Both documents, (EN & CC) with the same date !
Somebody in this council should be sacked forthwith. I'm not sure what Hippocrates thinks, but I suppose this is all ammunition for you in your appeal to London Tribunals.
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I have had a reply from havering. One threatening to add £80 on for the audacity of appealing and one demanding the new fee.
£240, how disgusting is that.
https://ibb.co/NdZfrCDB
https://ibb.co/dsnvrd85
https://ibb.co/hJnfVjgn
https://ibb.co/60FbDqSX
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Thank you so much. How ridiculous 🤣
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Well they have considered under the wrong act. Wait for the Enforcement Notice.
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@Hippocrates
Can you help me draft a reply :)
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That’s the back of the page
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Alternatively, payment of the Penalty Charge should now be made. The current amount now due is
£160.00.
Details of How to Pay
BY DEBIT CARD
Please telephone 0300 456 0630
ONLINe
www.havering.gov.uk/parking
By making an informal challenge you have waived your right to pay the discounted charge. The discounted charge of the Penalty only applies if paid within 14 days of the date the Penalty Charge Notice was served and full liability has been accepted.
regret that i am unable to enter into any further correspondence on this matter prior to such an appeal.
Yours sincerely
Miss Oye
Process & Debt Recovery Officer - Street Management
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For convenience:
(https://i.ibb.co/B2znktZ1/IMG-4028.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3mrRK7NJ)
Any more pages?
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https://ibb.co/3mrRK7NJ (https://ibb.co/3mrRK7NJ)
Please see image :)
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Be prepared for the long game and I am here for the full distance.
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Thank you! I will let you know
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Dear Havering
The alleged contravention did not occur as no upright signage allegedly passed is present in the video. Please cancel the PCN.
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Thank you so much! I only received my post today and already I only have one day to reply… post issue not me so I really appreciate :)
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Won two for a member recently. I will draft something tomorrow. Havering are learning though.
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The video doesnt work when I try to play it and I dont know how to do the location thing.
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Please post up the video and a GSV link to location.
There was a case at this location last year
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/havering-bus-lane-new-road-phillip-road-rm13/
but the outcome was never posted. @Hippocrates may know.
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I have received a PCN of me in a Bus Lane that I didnt know was a bus lane, can anyone help???
Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
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