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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: DoctorWho on July 03, 2025, 11:17:16 am
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For me, the key question you still need to answer, is having submitted representations to the council, and been rejected, you did nothing afterwards. You should have received a Notice to Owner, (NtO), before you got the Charge Certificate. By being at the Charge Certificate stage, you now have no appeal option open to you. Did you receive an NtO at all ?
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Yes I can H C Andersen,
I was parking in the car park when an electric bike( the ones people steal phones with) crashed into my car. I was just about to park in the car park bay and moving at the time of the crash and the area is free for overnight parking. The police gave me a reference number too and the report when the case closes which I thought would be enough but it was not.
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While we're waiting, would you pl expand on:
I got a PCN after my car was crashed into the night before by someone running from the police. It happened near where I live and park overnight...
Was your car parked in the car park lawfully before being rendered undriveable or was it hit elsewhere and you moved it to the car park?
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Thank you. I didn’t know that.
I will post the others now and wait for the next letter for this.
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Is a notice of recovery like a ccj? Or the steps before a ccj
No, and to put your mind at rest, there is not possibility whatsoever of you getting a CCJ. The legislation that established decriminalised parking and traffic enforcement was written so as to make this an impossibility. This doesn't however, stop councils from threatening you with the county court The only 'court' is the Traffic Enforcement Centre, which is similar to a county court, but it has no judges and no court rooms.
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I got 2 notice to owner at the moment but none of them match the pcn number on this one. So is there nothing I can do ?
Is a notice of recovery like a ccj? Or the steps before a ccj
The process for the PCN for which you have not received the NtO is described here
https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/
ccj is not involved.
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With regard to the other two NtOs, please give us the date of issue of each and alleged contraventions so we can advise further.
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I got 2 notice to owner at the moment but none of them match the pcn number on this one. So is there nothing I can do ?
Is a notice of recovery like a ccj? Or the steps before a ccj
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If you can honestly say you didn't get an NTO then you can make a witness statement when they issue an order for recovery that will get this reset to the NTO.
Are the name and address on the charge certificate correct.
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Hey, thanks for replying. I’ve attached the charge certificate as a pdf. Unfortunately I can’t find the notice to owner. I was trying to find but I don’t remember seeing it. I live with people and letters at my place get lost all the time.
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We need to see: -
- The PCN
- your representations
- their response
YOu haven't mentioned a Notice to Owner. If you have received a Charge Certificate, you should also have received this and must respond to it or all appeal options are lost. So what happened ? Best if you'd come on this forum when you got the PCN.
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Hi all,
I got a PCN after my car was crashed into the night before by someone running from the police. It happened near where I live and park overnight. The crash left the car badly damaged and completely undrivable.
I appealed to the council explaining that I couldn’t move the vehicle due to the damage, and even in the council’s own photos you can see it’s not in a drivable state. But they rejected my appeal.
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Now I’ve received a Charge Certificate and the fine has gone up to £120.
I don’t know what to do next. I couldn’t move the car at the time and feel like I’m being penalised for something that wasn’t my fault.
Can I still challenge this or take it to tribunal? What are my options?
Thanks for any advice.
P.S. i been getting a lot of tickets i been feeling like throwing away my car, especially since i live around the area i get tickets non stop. I usually pay them but they are so overwhelming a quarter of my wage goes to them at this point.
I hope i dont have to pay for this
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