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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: EyUp! on July 01, 2025, 11:14:54 am
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Well that's a result. Well done!
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I received the appropriate letter from the lease company and contacted TFL, which allowed me to put my representation in. According to the portal, they reviewed my representation and accepted it.
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Did you contact TFL?
I am wondering if the PCN shows on the website as cancelled because you wrote to TFL or if it's been cancelled because the lease company asked TFL to transfer liability to you?
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I just wanted to thank you for your support and guidance on this, I have just logged in and can confirm that TFL have cancelled the charge!
Thanks again,
EyUp!
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Thank you. I have emailed the lease company and requested authority to deal with it, I am waiting to hear back from them.
Thanks again,
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Thanks All,
I was heading south to north in the tunnel, (having used the Dartford Crossing, travelling north to south, and we paid as we went over).
I've asked the lease company to contact TFL, but they are the registered keeper so they say I can't have the PCN put in my name but will speak to the team that deals with this, so I'll see what comes of it and appeal to the better nature of TFL....
Thanks again.
Usually they can, but they may not want to. Provided the lease/hire agreement is in order and you or the company have signed to say you're liable for any fines and charges. They probably get loads of PCNs and speeding tickets every week.
Since you have a copy of the PCN to the lease company it's ground 6 at the bottom of page 3.
And if the transfer of liability occurs and it ends up with your company or your employer as opposed to you personally then you will need a letter of authority to act on their behalf.
You can also request a Letter of Authority from the lease company authorising you to act on the lease company's behalf.
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Thanks All,
I was heading south to north in the tunnel, (having used the Dartford Crossing, travelling north to south, and we paid as we went over).
I've asked the lease company to contact TFL, but they are the registered keeper so they say I can't have the PCN put in my name but will speak to the team that deals with this, so I'll see what comes of it and appeal to the better nature of TFL....
Thanks again.
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I would consider having a go at a representation if and when you get the PCN in your own name. I think that there is a chance that TFL might let you off for a first offence, since the charge is new, you're not from the area and so on. Doesn't apply to this case but I suspect that for the first month there were only warning notices, not payable PCNs. And the tunnel was previously free, until the Silvertown Tunnel opened.
I doubt if you can challenge the signs.
Were you going from the north side to the south or vice-versa?
You need to find out what the lease company will do. At what cost. Bu yes, it looks like £90 will still need to be paid.
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It's possible TFL will give you a one-off cancellation as the tunnel fees are fairly new - we've seen one case where they have I think.
But you need a PCN in your name to make reps.
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Thanks, I guess that either way, the fine will still stand at £90 and we can't pay whatever the fee should have been, in which case we just have to take the £90 on the chin and avoid any further admin charges, would you agree?
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Giving you their PCN is not how it works.
Currently you have no standing in the matter. The lease company is the registered keeper and they are responsible for either submitting a representation to TFL or paying the PCN.
The lease company can submit a representation to the effect that the car is leased to you and provide the necessary documents. Assuming TFL accept the representation they will cancel the lease company's PCN and serve a new PCN on you. You can then challenge or pay the PCN in the normal manner.
Depends on your agreement with the lease company but very likely the lease company will charge you an admin fee?
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Hi,
I recently visited friends who live south of London, and we travelled to them using the ‘Dartford Crossing’, paying the fee on the way over. We had once visited before and had to pay for the crossing, so we knew it existed and paid it as we crossed. It might sound parochial, but we rarely visit London, and this kind of thing puts us off To be honest, we are in Sheffield and don’t tend to be made aware of the charges in London. Perhaps we should conduct more research before visiting, but that would deter me further.
On our return on Saturday 14 June 2025, at 09:59, my sat nav took us through the Blackwall tunnel, and we commented that this avoided the charge for crossing, we genuinely didn’t see notices that we thought applied to the tunnel and we were concentrating hard on where to turn following Sat Nav.
Our car is on a business lease and is fully electric (in case that makes any difference), and the fine notice was sent to the lease company dated 20/6/25, arriving at the lease company 26/6/25, and they emailed it to us last week.
We have until 8/7/25 to pay a fine of £90.
If we had known there was a charge, we would have paid it as we went through.
If we had known after we used it, we would have paid the charge. I gather there is a 3-day notice period, but we didn’t revisit the scene of the contravention, nor did we have any inkling that we had not paid anything….
What, if anything, can we do?
Thanks
EyUp!