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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: WH98 on June 29, 2025, 10:43:14 am

Title: Re: Court claim from Euro Carparks and DCB Legal re Hospital carpark. (where its free to park)
Post by: b789 on September 19, 2025, 01:51:25 pm
Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: Court claim from Euro Carparks and DCB Legal re Hospital carpark. (where its free to park)
Post by: WH98 on September 19, 2025, 12:58:00 pm
Hi all,

Thank you so much for your help earlier. After submitting the defence I only got an acknowledgement form the court nothing from DCBL/claimant.
However, today I received a Directionbs questionnaire which I have to fill in and return by today, 19 September 2025,(the letter is dated 2nd September but came today)!!

Is it still worth emailing it in to them? DO I use the template form used in other thread I have skimmed through?
I am on the phone to the CNBC to see what I can do, It has taken 17 days for the letter to arrive!.
Title: Re: Court claim from Euro Carparks and DCB Legal re Hospital carpark. (where its free to park)
Post by: b789 on July 01, 2025, 03:08:25 pm
Please don't try and overthink this. You have the advice. I already told you what you need to do and edit. Nothing else needs editing. No other forms or anything need to be filled out. You only need to type your name. There is no need for a physical or image of your actual signature. Just type your full name.

So, you save the PDF and attach it to an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. Nothing to print or post. That is it.
Title: Re: Court claim from Euro Carparks and DCB Legal re Hospital carpark. (where its free to park)
Post by: WH98 on July 01, 2025, 01:26:20 pm
Sorry does the defence have to also go into the n98 form? Or can I just send the pdf?
Title: Re: Court claim from Euro Carparks and DCB Legal re Hospital carpark. (where its free to park)
Post by: WH98 on July 01, 2025, 11:59:01 am
Thank you so much for your help. I would not have been able to continue with this matter without it.


Just to confirm

-They refer in their particulars of claim "3. The defendant is being pursued as the driver of the vehicle for breach of terms 4. in alternative as keeper.
So  I can I claim 3(g) in the claim, as they are saying I'm either?
"(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity."
Or I am i being thick, they need to choose one?
-I don't need to cite the court case the draft order came from? If they ask, what do I say?
-I don't need to add what happened at the time ( I put my details into the machine, etc)
- You mean signing by simply typing my name, I don't need to print and sign?
Title: Re: Court claim from Euro Carparks and DCB Legal re Hospital carpark. (where its free to park)
Post by: b789 on June 29, 2025, 02:35:21 pm
With an issue date of 29th May, you had until 4pm on Tuesday 10th June to submit your defence. As you submitted an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you now have until 4pm on Tuesday 1st July to submit your defence.

Here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Euro Car Parks Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

Quote
IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Euro Car Parks Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tcewefk7daozuje25chkl/Strikeout-order-v2.pdf?rlkey=wxnymo8mwcma2jj8xihjm7pdx&st=nbtf0cn6&dl=0)
Title: Court claim from Euro Carparks and DCB Legal re Hospital carpark. (where its free to park)
Post by: WH98 on June 29, 2025, 10:43:14 am
HI
I received a claim form from the CNBC court about two weeks ago. The issue date however, was the 29 May 2025, I managed to get an AOS online completed to give me another two weeks, but here I am not knowing exactly what to do with submitting a defence and now hoping someone on here can please help me.

-Issue Date 29 May. I was told I have until 4pm on 1/07/2024 (Tuesday) to file a defence by the CNBC helpline (they said they had also emailed me the deadline and where to send the defence, but nothing came)

-Amount claimed £257.55
-Date of alleged contravention 23/09/2023

Background
On the day in question, I used the Finchley Memorial Hospital walk-in centre. It's free to park as long as you enter the details into the machine, which I did and have done before and after that date without incident.
I got some letters (I missed or ignored any previous), rang DCBL, told I was too late to appeal, I was wrong and I had been there for 45 minutes.  Rang pals, was given details of NHS property services, spoke to someone called Sarah who took details and said herself £150 odd was a joke and she would speak to the car parking people and get it cancelled. Never heard back until today. Yes, I didn't follow up and keep track of everything...
I pointed out to everyone I spoke to that I put my details into the computer/machine by inside next to the walk-in centre, check the CCTV. Also, check the comp/machine to see if it was calibrated or working properly and then come back to me and say I owe £150 (now £257). Even if I made a mistake, and I didn't, it doesn't warrant such an amount for what is a free car park if using the hospital.


Please could someone advise me on what defence I could submit? I see there is a template defence, which I am trying to get my head around, but I am not clear if it applies fully in my case and if I need to modify it because they've put a specific reason in their claim ("not authorised to park"). Also, I haven't been to that hospital site in over a year and I don't know what the signs now say (its difficult to do a "reconnaissance" now due to health reasons, though I will have to at some point).

Thanks for reading and any help offered, and apologies if its too much to read!

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