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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: beans1234 on June 25, 2025, 01:19:56 pm
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Thought I'd update, the PCN was cancelled. I guess I caught them on a good day!
Well done, we don't often see this.
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Thought I'd update, the PCN was cancelled. I guess I caught them on a good day!
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Just saw another post with someone adding the video, didn't realise I could do that so here's a link to mine I don't know how to attach it sorry
https://imgur.com/IG0NQHi
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Yeah they are outdated for sure, the car park I left to get on this road is shown as a car dealership in one image. Anyway here is where I took the left turn.
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.482988,-3.22031,97.96h,-0.29p,1z,medwT6JRtECWpClJD6UAzA
And just incase this makes any difference, here is a picture of the car park (where I also received a parking ticket!!) from which I entered the road, there's a good chance I entered the bus lane here without realising and drove the entire lengh.
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.483839,-3.223909,58.53h,-9.92p,0.01z,vtXNGaL0vn6Uhdr6W47AGw
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Sorry, but following satnav instructions is not a valid reason for cancellation of a PCN. We see cases like yours all the time on this forum. Satnavs are never up-to-date, as traffic restrictions are being introduced daily, and Cardiff is a particularly bad place for this.
Yeah I know I'm probably going to end up paying this, it's just annoying that I genuinely wasn't aware I was in a bus lane and the left hand turn I made wouldn't have taken me 2 seconds longer.
However, if you can post up a GSV link to the exact location, we can look around, but recent cases here show GSV as woefully out-of-date, I'm afraid.
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Sorry, but following satnav instructions is not a valid reason for cancellation of a PCN. We see cases like yours all the time on this forum. Satnavs are never up-to-date, as traffic restrictions are being introduced daily, and Cardiff is a particularly bad place for this.
Yeah I know I'm probably going to end up paying this, it's just annoying that I genuinely wasn't aware I was in a bus lane and the left hand turn I made wouldn't have taken me 2 seconds longer.
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Yes just the front and back of 1 page is all that was sent to me.
I've just accessed the video which shows I didn't use the bus route to get ahead of traffic since I'm the only vehicle heading that direction in the video, but am clearly in the bus lane.
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Sorry, but following satnav instructions is not a valid reason for cancellation of a PCN. We see cases like yours all the time on this forum. Satnavs are never up-to-date, as traffic restrictions are being introduced daily, and Cardiff is a particularly bad place for this.
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We can now see the whole of the front page, which contains the reg.mark, PCN number and, of great importance, date of issue.Were there only these two pages?
You will notice the Bold message that there is video evidence. Somewhere on the PCN should be guidance on accessing it - have a look. too, at Cardiff's website for parking matters.
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No, this is the only letter I've received and it came today.
The cut out words are (from top line to bottom)
This
Data
This
The
If you want me to retake the picture though just say. Thanks.
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Thanks, I had assumed it was the same as the other forum so blanked it all out, should be sorted now though.
Tight hand side of image seems to be chopped, Hoever, I've tried to improve it for you
(https://i.imgur.com/UyX3Ouf.jpeg)
GSV link? Any other council images or video?
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Thanks, I had assumed it was the same as the other forum so blanked it all out, should be sorted now though.
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For meaningful advice, Please to have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and re-post the front of the PCN with only yr name & address redacted - leave all else in,
any Council images (inc the video),
a GSV link to the location.
Only redact yr name & address from docs - leave all else in.
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Had no idea I had even driven in a bus lane illegally since I was following GPS directions in an area I'd never been to before.
(https://i.imgur.com/UyX3Ouf.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FWLTwpg.jpeg)
So been to Cardiff one time driving in my life, got my first ever parking ticket and Council PCN in the same journey!