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Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: John U.K. on October 02, 2025, 02:23:01 pm
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Is there another way I can post the full Rejection notice?

Do a fresh upload of the NoR's missing pages to one of yr external sites and post the BBCode(s) here.
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on October 02, 2025, 01:42:18 pm
Thanks for pointing that out — it seems the website cut off the full Notice of Rejection. Is there another way I can post the full Rejection notice?
The only thing I noticed was that my name was misspelt on the Notice of Rejection, but I don’t think that’s a big deal.

I paid the PCN on the towerhamlets.gov website, and at that time, the amount shown was £80.
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: John U.K. on October 01, 2025, 05:17:45 pm
I've now merged the topic. For convenience, here is the NoR and the C.C.

You have only posted part of the NoR: did T.Hamlets re-offer the discount or left it at "the penalty charge"? It looks as if you only paid the discounted amount.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hgz4SkrN/00178063.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/KcqSSV7S/Tower-Hamlets-Charge.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gbThhtwh)
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on October 01, 2025, 04:35:14 pm
The Charge Certificate is for £160.
I made the payment on 19th August and paid £80.

For some reason, I’m not able to upload files directly to the site, and it looks like Imgur is no longer supported in the UK — so I’ve shared the documents via the links below:

https://ibb.co/gbThhtwh

https://postimg.cc/pysSXkW9

Thanks!
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: Enceladus on September 29, 2025, 07:10:27 pm
How much is the Charge Certificate for?
When did you make the payment?
And how much did you pay?

Please post up the Charge Certificate, redacting only your name and address.
and
Please post up the Notice of Rejection and redact only your name and address.

Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: H C Andersen on September 29, 2025, 06:49:33 pm
In which you were asked for the full PCN, your reps and the NOR.

None was posted.

You now have a CC.

On the face of it you should pay because you received a NOR..

..but until you post this we're blind.
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: John U.K. on September 29, 2025, 06:40:36 pm
Yes, I did open a thread for the PCN back in June.

Is it this one?

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/entering-a-pedestrian-zone-brick-lane-tower-hamlets/msg79513/#msg79513
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on September 29, 2025, 04:12:02 pm
Yes, I did open a thread for the PCN back in June.
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: stamfordman on September 26, 2025, 12:00:31 am
Does this concern a PCN you already have a thread for?
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on September 25, 2025, 05:04:11 pm
I paid the fine for a PCN from Tower Hamlets after my appeal was rejected. Now I’ve received a charge certificate, and when I called, they confirmed my payment but then started making up stories—first claiming it was "partial," then saying it was "late." I was placed on hold multiple times as they kept changing their reasoning. Despite this, they didn’t cancel the charge certificate and said they’d get back to me. This is so bizarre!

Any advice?
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on August 19, 2025, 12:24:17 am
I usually save a copy of my appeals on my laptop, but in this case, I don’t think I did. The main premise of the appeal was that I was picking up a disabled person who was unable to get to me, and that I stopped briefly to assist without putting anyone in danger — there were hardly any pedestrians in the area at the time, and I left immediately afterward.

As expected, the appeal was rejected. However, I noticed that in the rejection letter, they misspelled my name. Could this error be enough to get the PCN dismissed, or is it not worth pursuing further?
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: Hippocrates on August 07, 2025, 11:20:15 pm
We need the whole of the PCN and the play you wrote to advise.
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on August 07, 2025, 05:31:06 pm
As expected, I’ve received a Notice of Rejection from Tower Hamlets Council — but they’ve misspelled my name on the letter. Does that kind of error matter at all?
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on July 04, 2025, 11:22:07 am
Does anyone know where I might be able to find the cases that stamfordman mentioned regarding the confusing signage on Brick Lane?

I’m thinking of writing an appeal that first highlights the confusing signage, then explains that I was picking up a disabled passenger — I'll attach their disability badge as supporting evidence. Does that sound like a good idea?
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: Incandescent on July 03, 2025, 11:39:55 pm
I was picking up a disabled passenger at the time. Would it be reasonable to base my appeal on this, using their valid disability badge as supporting evidence? A friend mentioned that their similar appeal was rejected, so I'm doubtful this will be considered.
It is something you should emphasise in your representations to the council. They may give way, but most London councils have hearts of stone, as they love the money so much.
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on July 03, 2025, 05:35:42 pm
I was picking up a disabled passenger at the time. Would it be reasonable to base my appeal on this, using their valid disability badge as supporting evidence? A friend mentioned that their similar appeal was rejected, so I'm doubtful this will be considered.
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: stamfordman on June 24, 2025, 02:24:16 pm
I think there have been a few cases allowed for the confusing signage. I'll see if I can dig one out later. There are a couple of such restrictions on Brick Lane.   
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on June 24, 2025, 02:17:43 pm
Yeah, I believe it was only my second time in the area. I live about an hour and a half away from Brick Lane.

So, are there pretty much no grounds for appeal in this case? Would it be better to just pay the PCN?
Title: Re: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: Incandescent on June 24, 2025, 12:26:12 am
Video shows you driving slowly past the two signs. The directional arrow is mounted at the bottom of the restriction signs, so its difficult to think of an appeal argument, sorry to have to say it. Are you new to the area, or a stranger to London ?
Title: Entering a Pedestrian Zone – Brick Lane (Tower Hamlets) -now Charge Certificate
Post by: traz on June 23, 2025, 11:36:16 pm
I received a PCN from Tower Hamlets Council for entering a pedestrian zone on Brick Lane. I was focused on looking at the names of the side roads. I did see the signage, but I saw the one-way sign, so I assumed it was okay to proceed — I didn’t realise there was also a pedestrian zone sign.

It was a silly mistake on my part — is there anything I can with this?

Thanks

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