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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: JaneL on June 19, 2025, 02:56:43 pm

Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: JaneL on June 30, 2025, 05:11:01 pm
Successful challenge.
Reason given: I drove down a one way street opposite direction and did not pass any signage.
Although I did mention the different code also.

Replies of course were appreciated in formulating my understanding and approach to this.
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: JaneL on June 26, 2025, 02:46:02 pm
edit - found it thanks
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: JaneL on June 24, 2025, 09:24:14 pm
I presume I turned further back. I can't see any signs, and it seems I may have gone down the wrong way down the one way street? I'm not used to driving in the area and am not sure of the details, but that is from a quick search.

Should I write an appeal citing the appropriate contravention description Code 33 you mentioned? Will I be able to do it in time for the 50 percent discount?

Thanks
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: Phantomcrusader on June 23, 2025, 06:26:10 pm
Assuming you passed signs like those shown above, there is no bus lane signage in place. The only signs placed are signs conveying a route restricted to certain vehicles. In this case the signs convey that the route is restricted for use by buses, pedal cycles and taxis only. Contravening this sign is, according to Govt guidance (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6294ddfa8fa8f5039a1bd695/annex-a-traffic-signs-subject-to-moving-traffic_enforcement.pdf), a moving traffic contravention and not a bus lane contravention. Therefore the appropriate contravention description is Code 33 - Using a route restricted to certain vehicles.
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: stamfordman on June 23, 2025, 05:50:53 pm
Video shows you well into this zone, which we've seen before. My son got a PCN in Fishergate and I failed to get it overturned but I can't remember the details.

(https://i.ibb.co/Q3WYnC69/lanc-ezgif-com-video-to-gif-converter.gif)
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: Incandescent on June 23, 2025, 02:09:35 pm
Plese tell us your route that got you into Fishergate. We need to see if signs are adequate at your point of entry.
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: JaneL on June 23, 2025, 12:58:04 pm
Hi,

Thanks for the response. I'm not sure if I was using satnav, I may have been. Does this effect a challenge I would make?
Do the photos shown help me to make any kind of challenge to the fine, along with anything else, or do you feel at this stage I should pay?
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: Incandescent on June 22, 2025, 01:42:17 am
The PCN photos don't show you passing Bus Only signs, only emerging from a street with Bus Only lanes in the other direction. You must have passed the signs some distance back. Claiming it was in the small hours for a 24x7 restriction won't get the PCNs cancelled, I'm afraid. Were you following satnav ?
Title: Lancanshire 34J Bus Lane Fishergate Cheapside Preston
Post by: JaneL on June 21, 2025, 03:19:48 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/RAlhQ7A.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/8ZyVPsS.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/7ostH4f.png)




Google Map street (https://www.google.com/maps?client=opera&hs=AQ3&sca_esv=964f0d0c22db4210&output=search&q=google+maps+fishergate+cheapside+preston&source=lnms&fbs=AIIjpHxU7SXXniUZfeShr2fp4giZMLQ4RPdPjLPmOakFCN7X8CDeRd7MSf3QLuh-Ogt4OB7r6nV6bE2hoevLLH3jdvrDgZpopBXu5_UJsRMjXSlvK75g6r1mwZuJdJ38D-yC0XnPx4tpuIRj_llxjTGYfCopE9WFL3okXIZmM-UiJs4RFwggPp4zgrLJ_ay0hm37DpQB8RxJu7F8jQC3z5ivvjU8uhHT4Q&entry=mc&ved=1t:200715&ictx=111)


1am bus lane pcn. Not sure of the signage and it was late. Very quiet at 1am and changed to 24 hours operation a while back.
Title: Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: Incandescent on June 19, 2025, 03:02:34 pm
Sorry, no good without documents. Please read this and update your thread accordingly: -
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
Title: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
Post by: JaneL on June 19, 2025, 02:56:43 pm
1:14am Fishergate - Cheapside - being in bus lane. Best way I can have a go at appealing this? Not sure of the signage and it was late. What is there usual line when you point out the intent is to aid buses, and that even night buses on that day and time aren't going down there?