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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: JellyfishCrab on June 10, 2025, 10:36:29 am
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The rest of the letter says the case will be on hold for 21 days for this new letter after which you may be sent a rejection.
But they also say they will take a telephone call - what does this mean? Seems it's because you need more time for the new letter. Could be worth a try but if it were me it would be to give them a piece of your mind.
I would be inclined to wait for the rejection and take it to the tribunal on the primary ground of inadequate signage/markings, and secondary of duty of fairness under the equality act by not putting a disabled person through the humiliating process of rejecting a letter and demanding another.
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Hi All.
The PCN has gone upto £70 now and will go up to £105 on 26/8/25 if I don't pay.
My original appeal went in June. It was rejected saying if I had sent a official GP/Hospital letter they would have considered the appeal. They informed me to wait for the Notice to Owner. I received and got a draft from yourselves and sent it to them on 11/8/25.
Now I got an email saying they want a GP/Hospital letter confirming that only 13th May 2025 at 13:54 I stopped at a loading bay because I needed to get to a toilet. Previously I have sent then a witness statement that they wanted confirming the event from the shop, whose facilities I used. They are saying they want a letter because my original diagnosis letter is dated 2023.
Any help and advice welcome please.
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I sent the long version to Birmingham City Council and have had a reply back.
How and when did you submit formal reps and pl post exactly what you submitted.
Their reply is dated 19 Aug.
The further 21 days would bring you to 9 Sept. after which 'the case may progress'.
They have 56 days beginning on the date of receipt of reps in which serve their response after which your reps are accepted by default. There is NO mechanism for extending this period.
So we need to know when and how you submitted your reps from which the 56-day period could be calculated. You could then take a view as to whether they'd get their act together quickly enough to serve their response.
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Really this is appalling by Birmingham. So a letter from 2023 is no good and they want a recent one...
It's standard for GPs to charge for a non-NHS letter and £25 is a minimum I think.
Getting one will save you £10 as the discounted PCN penalty is £35. Assuming Birmingham accepts it.
Alternative: take them to the tribunal.
I would also be making a complaint.
Wait for other views.
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Good afternoon. Hope you are well.
I sent the long version to Birmingham City Council and have had a reply back.
I have attached it for your inspection and further guidance. I have asked my GP if a letter could be done and they have said it will cost £25. To be honest it's £25 that I don't have unless I borrow but want the Council to reimburse because they requested it for further information. I have 18 days to reply back to them.
I look forward to hearing from you. Many thanks in advance.
Saeeda
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Thank you so much.
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I would send this. On reflection it could be a short version that just addresses the letter - see if anyone else has comments.
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Long version
I am making representations against the PCN by supplying the medical letter you said would warrant further consideration in your letter of rejection of my informal challenge.
Your letter stated: “However, I would advise you that further consideration may have only been given if you had supplied a letter on a headed paper from your doctor confirming your medical symptoms and the circumstances as described in your challenge.”
I trust you will now give such consideration at this stage.
As I said in my initial challenge, I am disabled and there was no disabled spaces to park on the road and few on each side street which were taken up and if available would have been too far to walk, and I desperately needed the toilet in a shop.
On the day I did not see any signs or kerb markings, and I can see from your pictures there was a lot of rubbish strewn by the roadside.
I would never knowingly break the blue badge rules but on this occasion I did not realise I had.
I was only in the shop for a few minutes to use the facilities as per the witness statement I provided in my challenge.
I trust you will now cancel the PCN after reading the enclosed medical letter that addresses my needs as a disabled person, and look forward to your positive reply.
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Short version
I am making representations against the PCN by supplying the medical letter you said would warrant further consideration in your letter of rejection of my informal challenge.
Your letter stated: “However, I would advise you that further consideration may have only been given if you had supplied a letter on a headed paper from your doctor confirming your medical symptoms and the circumstances as described in your challenge.”
I trust you will now cancel the PCN after reading the enclosed medical letter that addresses my needs as a disabled person, and look forward to your positive reply.
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I'll draft reps for you later. Bump/message me if I haven't.
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Yes
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NTO date is 25 July so plenty of time.
Is the letter you have on headed paper and from a doctor/authority confirming the medical issue.
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As requested
Please see attached Nto.
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Post the first page of the NTO hiding only name and address.
Your reps should be a formal submission of evidence they said would've been considered in the initial rejection. They can't wriggle out of that.
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Following my PCN notice in May when I was informed by Birmingham City Council, if I had submitted my medical information then the fine could have been overlooked. I sent the evidence later and was told to wait until I get the letter. I have received the Notice to Owner letter. Can you please help draft a copy or give me some terms of the law which will be in my favour. On Alum Rock Road Birmingham, no disabled parking. Only parking is on street corner for 2 cars. They are no way near any toilets and there are no public toilets that can be used nearby.
I hope to hear soon. Thanks
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Sorry yes you can wait for the notice to owner and then reference their rejection and supply evidence.
The NTO is sent to the registered keeper as on the logbook - is that you and are name/address correct.
You can also send evidence now as this should work too - they are saying if we'd had that we may well have cancelled but you weren't to know at this stage.
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Okay. I will send them the evidence despite them saying I have to wait for the letter to arrive and then go to tribunal.
The sign outside was covered with some posters on the day
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No, don't send to me. If you think it supports why you had to stop there send it to Birmingham referencing their letter and the PCN number.
You can message me if you like though.
There is a sign outside no 172 showing no waiting/loading 1pm-7pm and there does appear to be a yellow line and single blips but they will cancel if you give them the evidence they ask for.
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Hi.
It was outside 172 Alum Rock Road.
I have an diagnosed condition letter from the hospital. I will try and locate it and send it to you as soon as possible.
Thanks for your support.
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Paying closes the case - you can't pay half and continue.
Where on Alum Rock Road - it's a long road.
It looks like there are single kerb blips but council pics not clear and no pics of signs.
Asking for a doctor's letter is ridiculous but do you have anything official from GP or hospital that could help as they will cancel with relevant evidence.
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Hi
I am after a bit of advice please. I got a PCN fine for parking in a loading restricted space in Birmingham on Alum Rock Road.
On the day I did not see any signs or kerb markings. The kerbs on the corners of the road were blocked by cars parked on them. I looked for signs and could not see any because my view was restricted by hanging clothes all over.
I am disabled and there was no disabled spaces to park on the whole road and only 3 spaces on each side street which were taken up and if available would have been to far to walk, and I desperately needed the toilet.
Despite displaying my badge and getting a witness letter from the shop assistant my appeal was rejected saying if I had sent a doctors letter it may have been changed.
On submission I sent my appeal, a picture and a witness letter because I had already displayed my disabled badge. The badge was issued for a medical condition.
From the timing on my clock display and receiving the ticket was a couple of minutes just to use the shops facilities after explaining that I am disabled and desperately need the toilet. My appeal was rejected saying they might have considered if I had sent my doctors letter.
I would like to know if I should pay now at half price or what are my chances at the tribunal and to wait for tribunal?
Any advice, guidance and support welcome.
Thanks
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