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Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on December 19, 2025, 02:22:42 pm
You can search the forum for any number of past and ongoing DCB Legal issued claims which will show you the process and what happens when until the eventual strike out or discontinuance.
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on December 19, 2025, 02:17:46 pm
We have submitted that all now, as this was our first time it was quite frustrating with getting a Gov Gateway ID etc but all done.

What can we expect now do you think with your knowledge.

Many thanks again for all the help.
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on December 14, 2025, 10:57:15 am
With an issue date of 10th December, you have until 4pm on Monday 29th December to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 12th January to submit your defence.

You only need to submit an AoS if you need extra time to prepare your defence. If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the "system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that far.

You will need to copy and paste it into the defence text box on MCOL. It has been checked to make sure that it will fit into the 122 lines limit.

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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with PD 16, para 7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out materially similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.

5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found that requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim due to the Claimant’s failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which is (or are) relied on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have done pursuant to PD 7C, para 5.2, but chose not to do so.

AND upon the Court determining, having regard to the overriding objective (CPR 1.1), that it would be disproportionate to direct further pleadings or to allot any further share of the Court’s resources to this claim (for example by ordering further particulars of claim and a further defence, with consequent case management).

ORDER:

1. The claim is struck out.

2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this Court not more than 7 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on December 13, 2025, 03:36:18 pm
Thank you for such a fast response

Hopefully this works

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lC3t3TUURRW9d2phHuJBr5ULxxh70Rf7/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on December 13, 2025, 03:02:08 pm
You need to show us the N1SDT Claim form with the Particulars of Claim (PoC) on it. We don't need to see all the other gumph that came with it. Only redact your personal details, the claim number and the MCOL password. Leave everything else visible and we will then be able to give you precise instructions on what to do.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9broxEs6SCxRYxxy9
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on December 13, 2025, 02:52:55 pm
Hi

The Claim Form has arrived and now we are worried as we truly dont understand the form or process now as we have never been here before hope you can help explain this to us.

Very much appreciated 👏
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on December 11, 2025, 10:30:43 am
Not really.
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on December 11, 2025, 08:20:06 am
One other question, they have sent photos of the signage at the location with the last email they sent. Does this change anything in the reply to send them. Thank you again for all your help.
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on December 10, 2025, 01:19:59 pm
OK, so you are now waiting for the N1SDT Claim Form to arrive. However, you need to respond with the following to that correspondence:

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Subject: Pre-Action Non-Compliance, Standing, and Intended SRA Complaint

Ref: [DCB Legal ref] / PCN: [PCN ref]

Dear Ms Maloney,

Thank you for your email.

You state that a claim has now been submitted. For the avoidance of doubt, I do not accept liability for this alleged debt and will deal with the claim strictly through the court process once the claim form is served.

This letter is to record:

1. your continuing failure to comply with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims and the Practice Direction on Pre-Action Conduct; and
2. your client’s failure to prove any standing from the landowner to operate and enforce at this site.

1. Pre-Action non-compliance

From the outset I have asked for basic “key documents” that the Practice Direction requires to be exchanged before proceedings are issued. You have repeatedly refused to provide them, relying on a stock phrase that the requests are “disproportionate and/or not relevant”.

For the record, you have still not provided:

• A copy of the original Notice to Keeper relied upon to found any alleged keeper liability.
• Contemporaneous photographs of the *actual* signs in situ on the material date, together with the precise wording allegedly forming the contract and the term said to have been breached.
• A copy of the written authority from the landowner/landholder which your client relies on.
• A clear breakdown of the £247.59 claimed, explaining the legal basis of each element and the provenance of the added “debt recovery” sum.

These are not peripheral; they go directly to whether your client has any cause of action at all. Issuing a claim while still refusing to disclose them will be put before the court in support of an argument that you and/or your client has behaved unreasonably and that sanctions in costs and case management are appropriate.

2. Standing and landowner authority (PPSCoP Section 14)

You have produced no evidence whatsoever that your client has any authority from the landowner or landholder to:

• operate at Airport Retail Park; and/or
• issue PCNs and court claims in their own name.

The Private Parking Single Code of Practice requires that operators hold written authority from the landholder before they operate and enforce on any site. Section 14 – and in particular 14.1(a)–(j) – sets out what that written authority must cover, including:

• the identity of the landholder;
• the land to which it relates;
• the duration;
• the extent of the operator’s mandate; and
• whether the operator has been authorised to bring legal proceedings in its own name.

Unless there is a contract or written authority from the landowner that satisfies Section 14.1(a)–(j), your client has no standing to issue PCNs at this location and no standing to sue me in its own name.

I therefore again require:

• A contemporaneous, unredacted copy of the contract / letter of authority from the landowner on which your client relies; and
• Confirmation of the landholder’s capacity (freeholder/long leaseholder/other).

If you are unable to produce this, the correct course is to discontinue the claim. If you persist without producing proper landowner authority, I will invite the court to draw an adverse inference and to treat that as a serious conduct issue.

3. SRA escalation

You have now:

• Issued (or purported to issue) a claim without disclosing basic standing and liability documents requested at the pre-action stage;
• Repeatedly relied on templated, non-responsive wording instead of addressing clear, specific legal points; and
• Ignored the requirements of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims and the Practice Direction on Pre-Action Conduct.

In view of this, I am preparing a formal report to the Solicitors Regulation Authority regarding DCB Legal Ltd’s conduct in this matter, including concerns about:

• Failure to comply with pre-action obligations;
• Failure to properly address fundamental standing issues before issuing proceedings; and
• The use of standardised debt-collection templates in place of a competent, case-specific legal response.[/indent\

A copy of this letter, together with your correspondence, will be provided to the SRA and to the court.

4. Communications

I will not discuss this matter by telephone or portal. All communication must be in writing, preferably by email.

Yours faithfully,

[Name]
[Postal address]
[Email]
At the same time send the following SRA complaint about DCB Legal to report@sra.org.uk and CC yourself:

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Subject: SRA Complaint – Conduct of DCB Legal Ltd in Private Parking Litigation (Failure to Comply with Pre-Action Protocol and Standing Requirements)

Dear Sirs,

I wish to raise a formal complaint about the conduct of DCB Legal Ltd in relation to a private parking claim they are pursuing against me on behalf of their client, relating to Airport Retail Park, CV3 4RP.

DCB Legal have sent a series of “Letter of Claim” style communications which I contend do not comply with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims or with the general requirements of pre-action conduct. From the outset I made clear and specific requests for key documents, including:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper on which any alleged keeper liability is based.
2. Contemporaneous photographs of the actual signage in situ on the material date, and the precise wording of the terms allegedly forming the contract and said to have been breached.
3. The written authority from the landowner or landholder upon which their client relies to operate at the site and to issue PCNs and court claims in its own name.
4. A clear breakdown of the total sum claimed, explaining the legal basis for each element and the source of the added “debt recovery” sum.

Instead of responding substantively, DCB Legal sent repeated template replies asserting that their Letter of Claim was “compliant”, that my requests were “disproportionate and/or not relevant”, and that the appeal window had expired. The appeal-window point is irrelevant to pre-action engagement, but they have persisted in using it as a stock answer. They have refused to provide key documents that go directly to liability and standing, while insisting that they may proceed to issue a claim.

In their correspondence, members of staff such as “Sofia Marth, Administration Associate” and “Emily Maloney, Litigation Support Associate” have purported to deal with these matters. When I asked DCB Legal to identify the authorised person responsible for the conduct of the litigation, including their SRA number, they failed to do so. I am concerned that unqualified administrative staff are effectively “fronting” the litigation, using standard debt-collection templates, without proper supervision or review by an authorised litigator.

I am particularly concerned about the question of standing. Under the Private Parking Single Code of Practice, the operator must hold written authority from the landholder which meets the requirements set out in section 14, including 14.1(a) to (j). That written authority should show, among other things, the identity and capacity of the landholder, the extent of the land, the term of the authority, and whether the operator is permitted to bring court proceedings in its own name. Despite repeated requests, DCB Legal have not produced any such authority or contract, nor have they indicated that they have checked whether their client in fact has standing to operate or sue at this location. In my submission, DCB Legal are pressing on with a claim while knowing, or being reckless as to whether, their client has any entitlement from the landowner at all.

DCB Legal have now informed me that a claim has been submitted to the court, while still refusing to provide the basic documents described above. They have persisted with formulaic, non-responsive wording, asserting compliance with the Protocol but not addressing the specific points raised. I consider this to be a failure to comply with their pre-action duties and a failure to provide a competent standard of service in contentious work.

I ask the SRA to investigate:

1. Whether DCB Legal have complied with their obligations regarding pre-action conduct, including the proper exchange of key documents and meaningful engagement with disputes about liability and standing, before issuing a claim.

2. Whether authorised solicitors at DCB Legal are properly supervising these files, or whether administrative staff are effectively conducting litigation and giving template legal responses without adequate supervision, contrary to the rules on reserved legal activities and supervision.

3. Whether it is proper for DCB Legal to continue to pursue court proceedings where they have not obtained, or will not disclose, any written landowner authority satisfying the requirements now placed on private parking operators by the Private Parking Single Code of Practice.

4. Whether their use of stock, debt-collection style templates, their refusal to address clear legal issues, and their decision to issue proceedings in these circumstances is compatible with the SRA Principles and Code of Conduct, particularly in relation to upholding the rule of law, acting with integrity, providing a competent standard of service, and ensuring proper supervision.

I can supply copies of all relevant correspondence between myself and DCB Legal, including the Letters of Claim, my detailed responses, and their template replies, together with any claim form once served.

Please let me know what further information you require.

Yours faithfully,

[Full name]
[Address]
[Email]
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on December 09, 2025, 06:46:22 pm
They emailed again.  Hope you can help.

Dear XXXXX,

We write in response to your correspondence received in our office.

We confirm that despite your latest correspondence, our position remains as previously advised. As such, should our client instruct us to proceed with further legal action, we reserve the right to do so without any further reference to you.

It is our position that the Letter of Claim ("LOC") is compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims. The LOC provides adequate information for you to identify the debt that our Client is seeking to recover.

However, as per your request, please find attached the evidence DCB Legal hold pertaining to the matter. As previously advised, if there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute.

The terms and conditions on the signs stated 3 hours maximum stay permitted, or otherwise a Parking Charge would be issued. The vehicle was recorded on the land for 3 hours and 12 minutes, as is demonstrated in the timestamped photographic evidence attached. The Parking Charge was issued correctly.

As you failed to make payment within the time frame specified within our previous correspondence, a Claim has now been submitted against you.

You are now required to make payment of the full Claim balance of £247.59 or address the Court documentation accordingly, that you will receive in due course. Failure to do so, within the time frame specified by Court will result in Judgment being issued against you in default.

Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
Sort Code: 20-24-09
Account Number: 60964441
You must quote the correct case reference (XXXXXXXXXX) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

Kind Regards,

 

Emily Maloney

Litigation Support Associate

DCB Legal Ltd

 

Tel: 0203 434 0433 | DX 23457 Runcorn
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on October 27, 2025, 08:07:42 pm
Thank you agaim so much, we will send this tomorrow 😊
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on October 27, 2025, 07:03:23 pm
You can respond to that with the following:

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Subject: Non-compliant Letter of Claim, Templated Responses, and Request for Authorised Litigator Details

Ref: [insert their case ref and PCN ref]

Dear Ms Marth,

Your latest reply does not engage with the specific issues raised and again relies on a generic template. It is legally embarrassing that, when put to strict proof and directed to the relevant Protocol provisions, you have chosen formulaic assertions over substance.

The Letter of Claim remains non-compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims and the Practice Direction – Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols. You have still failed to provide the key documents required for meaningful pre-action engagement, namely:
1. The original Notice to Keeper relied upon (to establish any PoFA 2012 keeper liability).
2. Contemporaneous photographs of the actual signage in situ on the material date and the exact contractual wording allegedly breached (not library images).
3. The written landowner authority conferring standing to issue charges and litigate.
4. A clear breakdown of the sum claimed, identifying the legal basis of each element (consideration or damages) and the provenance of the £70 add-on.

Your repeated reliance on Protocol para 2.1(c) (proportionality) does not displace your obligation to provide “key documents relevant to the issues in dispute” under PD-PACP 6(a)–(c) and the information required by Protocol paras 3.1, 5.1 and 5.2. The “appeal window” point is irrelevant at this stage.

You also continue to characterise the parking charge as a “genuine pre-estimate of loss”. That is wrong in law. The Supreme Court in ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67 confirmed that such charges are not assessed by the GPEOL test. Please correct your position.

As for the £70 “debt recovery” add-on, it is denied. It is a duplicated cost of business, irrecoverable on the small-claims track and inconsistent with the Government’s Private Parking Single Code of Practice (17 February 2025). Your own admission that no VAT is chargeable underscores that no taxable supply is made to the motorist.

Given the above, please now:
A) Identify the authorised person responsible for the conduct of this matter (full name and SRA number). The conduct of litigation is a reserved activity under the Legal Services Act 2007 and must be carried out by an authorised or exempt person.
B) Serve a Protocol-compliant response enclosing the documents at 1)–4), or provide a short refusal schedule for each item with reasons.

Further obfuscation or persistence with templated, non-responsive correspondence will leave me with no option but to lodge a formal complaint with the SRA, addressing compliance with the SRA Principles and Code of Conduct (including supervision and the provision of a competent standard of service).

I will correspond in writing only. Do not telephone me. Upon receipt of a Protocol-compliant response, I will take advice and provide a substantive reply within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. If you issue proceedings without first complying, I will apply for a stay and seek appropriate sanctions and costs under PD-PACP 13–16.

Yours faithfully,

[Name]
[Postal address]
[Email]
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on October 27, 2025, 04:37:30 pm
We have had another email after sending the one above which was edited with the Information needed.

Here is the emael response from them:

We write in response to your recent correspondence in response to our Letter of Claim (LOC) and will now respond as follows.
It is our position that the Letter of Claim (“LOC”) is compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (“the Protocol”). The LOC provides adequate information for you to identify the debt that our Client is seeking to recover. We would respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.
For the avoidance of doubt, please note that the timeframe in which to appeal the Parking Charge has expired. You were given the opportunity to lodge an appeal when the initial Notice was issued to you. Given that the case has been escalated to this firm for recovery action, the time to appeal has now elapsed and payment of the Parking Charge(s) is now required.
The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. Further, in accordance with the British Parking Association (BPA)/International Parking Community (IPC) Code of Practice, where the Parking Charge becomes overdue and before Court proceedings have commenced, a reasonable sum may be added for the debt recovery fees. The correct recovery fees have been added and will not be removed, for completeness we would advise that the fee is not inclusive of any VAT, as it does not pertain to a supply of goods/services between you and our Client.
To clarify, when parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are thus entering into a contract (by way of conduct) and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.
Attached are copies of evidence pertaining to the matter, however, if there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.
You now have 30 days from the date of this email/letter to make payment of the amount as per our Letter of Claim. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.
Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -
• Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
• Sort Code: 20-24-09
• Account Number: 60964441
You must quote the correct case reference (XXXXXXXXXHVP) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.
We would ask that you kindly furnish us with your most up to date telephone number and email address, this can be emailed to us at info@dcblegal.co.uk.
Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.
Please note that in the absence of payment in the next 30 days, our position remains as previously advised. As such, should our client instruct us to proceed with further legal action, we reserve the right to do so without any further reference to you.
If you are at all unsure of your legal position, we recommend that you seek your own independent legal advice
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on October 20, 2025, 11:01:37 pm
Thank you so much. 
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on October 20, 2025, 07:32:11 pm
Reply as follows:

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Subject: Your Response to Letter of Claim — Request for Details of Authorised Litigator

Ref: [insert their case ref and PCN ref]

Dear Ms Marth,

Thank you for your reply.

It is apparent from the content and tone of your response that you are relying on a standardised template and have not properly engaged with the specific legal issues raised. The reply does not demonstrate any meaningful understanding of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims or of your client’s disclosure obligations under paragraphs 6(a)–(c) of the Practice Direction – Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols.

Given that your correspondence falls significantly below the standard expected of a solicitor’s firm purporting to conduct litigation, I now require confirmation of the name and SRA authorisation number of the individual who is personally responsible for the conduct of this matter and who is authorised to carry out reserved legal activities on behalf of DCB Legal Ltd.

Please note that under the Legal Services Act 2007, the conduct of litigation may only be undertaken by an authorised or exempt person. I therefore require you to identify the authorised person supervising or signing off this file.

Until this is clarified and a Protocol-compliant response is provided (enclosing the documents previously requested), I am unable to engage substantively or to consider my position further. Should proceedings be issued without compliance, I will raise these points with the court in relation to conduct and costs.

Yours faithfully,

[Name]
[Postal address]
[Email]
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on October 20, 2025, 04:39:17 pm
We have had a response.

Your help and advice once again would be very grateful 🙏

Dear xxxxxx

We write in response to your recent correspondence in response to our Letter of Claim (LOC) and will now respond as follows.

Location: Airport Retail Park CV3 4RP,  Date of Contravention: XX/XX/2025, Parking Charge Ref Number: xxxxxxxxx
It is our position that the Letter of Claim (“LOC”) is compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (“the Protocol”). The LOC provides adequate information for you to identify the debt that our Client is seeking to recover. We would respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

For the avoidance of doubt, please note that the timeframe in which to appeal the Parking Charge has expired. You were given the opportunity to lodge an appeal when the initial Notice was issued to you. Given that the case has been escalated to this firm for recovery action, the time to appeal has now elapsed and payment of the Parking Charge(s) is now required.

The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. Further, in accordance with the British Parking Association (BPA)/International Parking Community (IPC) Code of Practice, where the Parking Charge becomes overdue and before Court proceedings have commenced, a reasonable sum may be added for the debt recovery fees. The correct recovery fees have been added and will not be removed, for completeness we would advise that the fee is not inclusive of any VAT, as it does not pertain to a supply of goods/services between you and our Client.

To clarify, when parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are thus entering into a contract (by way of conduct) and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.

Attached are copies of evidence pertaining to the matter, however, if there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of the amount as per our Letter of Claim. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.

Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
Sort Code: 20-24-09
Account Number: 60964441
You must quote the correct case reference (XXXXXXXXHVP) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

Please note that in the absence of payment in the next 30 days, our position remains as previously advised. As such, should our client instruct us to proceed with further legal action, we reserve the right to do so without any further reference to you.

If you are at all unsure of your legal position, we recommend that you seek your own independent legal advice

Sofia Marth
Administration Associate
DCB Legal Ltd
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on September 11, 2025, 05:40:05 pm
Thank you again

Regards
Craig
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on September 09, 2025, 12:44:58 pm
With regards to the LoC, you should respond robustly with something along these lines, which you send by email to info@dcblegal.co.uk and you also CC yourself:

Subject: Response to you Letter of Claim Ref: [reference number]

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of evidence your client places reliance upon and thus is in complete contravention of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a firm of supposed solicitors, one would expect you to be capable of crafting a letter that aligns with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions do not exist for decoration—they exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You might wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), stipulate that prior to proceedings, parties should have exchanged sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 helpfully clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter mentions a “contract”, yet fails to provide one. This would appear to undermine the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It’s difficult to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue when your side declines to furnish the very document it purports to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with the requirements of para 3.1 (a) of the Pre-Action Protocol, I shall then seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. Thus, I require your client to comply with its obligations by sending me the following information/documents:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) that confirms any PoFA 2012 liability
2. A copy of the contract (or contracts) you allege exists between your client and the driver, in the form of an actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date, not a generic stock image
3. The exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract(s) which is (are) relied upon that you allege to have been breached
4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner, establishing authority to enforce
5. A breakdown of the charges claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” fee includes VAT

I am clearly entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. I also need it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).

If your client does not provide me with this information then I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Limited v The Park West Club Limited (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Limited & Peter Dann Limited [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c) and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it, and it is entirely premature (and a waste of costs and court time) for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so, then I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order that this information is provided.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: jfollows on September 09, 2025, 11:52:25 am
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ has instructions on how to attach pictures
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on September 09, 2025, 11:36:14 am
Hi Again

We have now received a lovely letter from the DCBL teams which now states "LOC"

I hope you can guide us on the next steps of action required by us.

I can't see any way of contacting them as this has been a letter in post all the time, So do we if we have to reply is it by post.

I can't seem to be able to add a photo anymore of the letter.

Thank you again

Craig
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on August 21, 2025, 01:17:27 pm
It's just another useless debt recovery letter. You can safely disregard it.

Eventually, DCB Legal will send you a Letter of Claim (LoC). Come back when you receive that.

Thank you so much :)
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on August 21, 2025, 12:39:59 pm
It's just another useless debt recovery letter. You can safely disregard it.

Eventually, DCB Legal will send you a Letter of Claim (LoC). Come back when you receive that.
Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on August 21, 2025, 12:31:42 pm
Hi all

Hope you can help again

This has now been received, What would our next step or response be

Thank you

Title: Re: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: b789 on June 07, 2025, 09:54:24 pm
It's a pity that an offer to pay was made as that admits liability. However, not to worry... as this is going eventually lead to a court claim, issued by DCB Legal, we will advise on how to deal with it and provide a suitable defence and advice all the ay through the process which will eventually end when the claim is either struck out or discontinued.

No one pays a penny to anyone represented by DCB Legal (not DCBL, their sister company).

The person you are assisting is very lucky they did not cash the cheque and they are now going to be £60 better off than they would have been. It will just take time but we will be here to assist.

Never, ever enter into communication with a useless debt recovery company. They are powerless to do anything except to try and make the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to pay up out of ignorance and fear. All debt collectors can be safely ignored.
Title: Parking Charge from DCBL 12 min Over Stay
Post by: Craig1973 on June 07, 2025, 09:30:11 pm
Hi All i could do with some help.

I have been reading a lot of the posts but would like some help please from you amazing people

Case: The driver parked at a local retail park in under "Highview Parking LTD" and stayed over the time by 12mins, The driver is a pensioner and struggles to walk around fast. Now initially before i got involved the driver had already appealed the PCN, The appeal was not won and lowered to £60, The driver sent a cheque of the costs after the rejection of appeal online, and they then sent the driver a letter explaining that the cheque had been cut up and destroyed and that they are now not accepting this payment as it did bear the cost on the amount which it clearly did, and now the charge has been passed to DCBL and is now at a whopping £155.00 oh the joy lol.

The original letter was binned after cheque was sent so we don't have that sorry.

There is now two letters from DCBL been delivered one attached which is the second letter, I told the driver to ignore the first letter from DCBL and now i have told the driver not to do anything either with the second yet, and this is why i am here to ask what we should do next if you lovely people can help.

The driver struggles to walk around and is also a pensioner, so 12 mins over stay as you can imagine is grinding me to the max.

What advice could you give us on this as our next moves.

Kind Regards
Craig

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