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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: agnesha on October 06, 2023, 01:10:05 pm

Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 16, 2023, 04:12:18 pm: I did think of sending an email, but as it was the last day to challenge at a discounted price I panicked since paying the full amount would put me in a very hard position.

I did send an email afterwards explaining the situation, but haven't yet received a reply, nor I have high expectations.

Thank you for your replies and willingness to help.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: cp8759 on October 14, 2023, 12:15:53 pm: If you'd asked us we could have given you an email address for the council.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 13, 2023, 08:55:19 pm: I have tried to make representations, however it wouldn't give me an option to do so online and it was the last day to pay the discounted fare, since Incandescent's last reply didn't given me much confidence, I just paid it in the end.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: cp8759 on October 13, 2023, 06:37:34 pm: If you haven't made representations already, please don't and instead put your video somewhere I can easily download it.

If you've already challenged, please show us what you've sent.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 11, 2023, 10:01:59 pm: Well, I will try to appeal and see how it goes. Thanks
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: Incandescent on October 11, 2023, 05:53:34 pm: Having now seen the video, I am more certain than I was that you will struggle to overturn this PCN. The advance sign is a correctly formatted advance warning sign of a restriction at the next turning on the left.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 11, 2023, 02:28:22 pm: all changed
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: Incandescent on October 11, 2023, 02:17:00 pm: Quote from: agnesha on October 11, 2023, 01:19:24 pm
Video

https://youtube.com/shorts/KsDzawPegUI?feature=share
video won't open as it is set at 'private'
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 11, 2023, 01:19:24 pm: Video

https://youtube.com/shorts/KsDzawPegUI?feature=share
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: cp8759 on October 11, 2023, 12:20:23 am: Let's see this video you've made.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: Incandescent on October 10, 2023, 12:18:44 am: I have to say, having now seen the advance warning sign, that you're likely to struggle overturning this PCN.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 09, 2023, 08:38:37 pm: I also have a short video, let me know if it may be helpful, the sign seems to be hidden under the tree from a distance.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 09, 2023, 07:53:03 pm: Please find pictures attached

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Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: cp8759 on October 09, 2023, 02:11:26 pm: Here's The Redbridge (Prescribed Routes) (School Streets) (No. 1) Order 2022 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1NtU6swU5r9H4pRjD_UnhjP8PikwXC9KX).

Any chance of those photos I asked for?
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: cp8759 on October 07, 2023, 03:43:55 pm: Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiAH0Q1wfQs

Can you get us some photos of the advance warning signs please?

In the meantime I'll get hold of the traffic order.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 06, 2023, 02:36:29 pm: Yes, Its a fairly recent restriction, I turned left and yes advance warning sign is in place.
Title: Re: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: Incandescent on October 06, 2023, 01:59:51 pm: Did you turn right into Chestnut Drive, or turn left ? GSV is out-of-date for this restriction, being last updated on April 2019. For a left turn into the street, one woould expect an advance warning sign to be present, because if one is not forewarned, it is too late once the turn is commenced. For a right-turn it's not such a problem as the signs can be seen before starting the turn.

So, are there any advance warning signs ?
Title: PCN- Redbridge Council- 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on entering pedestrian zone.
Post by: agnesha on October 06, 2023, 01:10:05 pm: Hello,

I've received a PCN for entering a road within restricted time, I have taken the turn, (realised that I potentially didn't get the times right, because of my chronic condition I often have a brain fog) then stopped for sometime and continued going since I thought it's was too late anyway, I think I just generically followed a vehicle in front of me. I have driven by since and the signage is pretty clear.

I was hoping this could be challenged, any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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