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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: rizlagunner on May 23, 2025, 12:15:31 pm

Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: holmestm on June 09, 2025, 09:21:50 am
That's good to know that there is a precedent for some leeway. Sorry that you got hit with a double fine. I tried to set up an auto-pay account online but it keeps reporting an error so they are not making things easy for us motorists. I can also honestly say I did not see any notification signs that I had to pay else I would have done so.  Have you since gone back through the tunnel and can you say that the signs are clear and obvious?
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: Clear-way-8318 on June 09, 2025, 09:17:47 am
I ended up paying the £90, I got caught twice coming in and hour and they let me off the first one. Joke though!
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: holmestm on June 09, 2025, 09:11:59 am
Glad to hear I'm not the only one to have been caught out with this. I can honestly say I did not see any signs stating that I would have to pay, unlike the Dartford crossing where there are several signs on the run-up and also on the other side. I have put in an on-line complaint, and also tried calling but they won't discuss the fine with me as it is a Leased vehicle. Has anyone had any leeway from TFL on this?

Tim
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: Clear-way-8318 on May 31, 2025, 07:05:56 am
What’s your outcome?
And
If you have a PCN then please start your own thread and post up the PCN. Redact your name & address and leave everything else visible. All as per the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!** (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/) sticky post at the top of the forum.

I did ..
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: Glitch on May 30, 2025, 11:32:32 pm
I know 3 people who have been caught out by the new charges. One narrowly managed to pay within the 3 days, only because we were discussing the other two and he realised he'd been through the tunnel. Saved him £90!

They all said they didn't see signs. Haven't been through the Blackwall Tunnel for at least 18 months so haven't seen it for myself.
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: Incandescent on May 30, 2025, 10:47:59 pm
Any updates on this? Expecting a letter soon from my first time use/forgetting to pay too
Like the others here, just keep looking on this thread, or start your own when you get the PCN.
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: tommytbone on May 30, 2025, 09:24:15 pm
Any updates on this? Expecting a letter soon from my first time use/forgetting to pay too
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: Enceladus on May 29, 2025, 03:54:55 pm
What’s your outcome?
And
If you have a PCN then please start your own thread and post up the PCN. Redact your name & address and leave everything else visible. All as per the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!** (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/) sticky post at the top of the forum.

Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: John U.K. on May 29, 2025, 01:35:45 pm
What’s your outcome?

A bit soon to expect an outcome - just keep an eye on this thread....
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: Clear-way-8318 on May 29, 2025, 12:53:15 pm
What’s your outcome?
Title: Re: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: stamfordman on May 23, 2025, 01:24:06 pm
As the tunnel charge is a recent introduction there's chance that TFL may cancel a first-time PCN but TFL is not like Dart.

All you can do is make polite ask.
Title: Help: TFL Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging PCN
Post by: rizlagunner on May 23, 2025, 12:15:31 pm
Hi guys,

I have today received a PCN from the Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels Charging authority of £180, £90 if paid within 14 days.

From what I can understand, this is a new charge that didn't apply previously, and unfortunately I got caught out on my only trip down Blackwall tunnel in a year or so. I also have ADHD so I do struggle with these retrospective charging regimes where one has to pay after the fact. I have been ticketed by Dartford crossing in the past, but I registered an online account so I never have to worry about that one. Somehow I stupidly thought that having registered online for Dartford would work here as well, but I guess they are different charging authorities so different accounts are required. Which in itself is a very inefficient process.

This is the first time this has happened, so I wonder if there is any recourse here by appealing for leniency for first time offence. I know this has worked with Dartford crossing in the past.

The penalty charge is disproportionately high. The crossing fee is £1.50, and I was only 38 minutes earlier than the free charge time.

The issue date from when the 14 days begins is 16/05/2025, however this just landed through my mailbox so effectively I only get 7 days to pay it.

Is there any possible representation here or should I just resign myself to a very expensive tunnel crossing and pay within the 7 days?

Thank you.


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