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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: owens_2k on May 06, 2025, 01:05:17 pm
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Excuse my ignorance, what is LoC sorry?
If/when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC), there will be more to do. Never, ever, enter into communication with a powerless debt collector.
Thank you.
If I receive any further correspondence I will update this post.
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Excuse my ignorance, what is LoC sorry?
If/when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC), there will be more to do. Never, ever, enter into communication with a powerless debt collector.
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The archive footage states that there wasn't a NTD.
If this is correct, then OP pl don't clutter the thread with what ifs and hypothetical scenarios..sorry to be harsh.
They can issue a LoC and commence proceedings if they want...and waste their time and money thereby.
They may not by law hold you liable for the driver's liability because objectively they have not met the legal conditions for doing so.
End of.
Don't argue or debate outside court, wait for your moment in court if they're foolish enough to continue.
Just follow procedure if they pursue.
That's correct. First correspondence from Alliance parking was a NtK issued 1st November 2021. Excuse my ignorance, what is LoC sorry?
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You can safely ignore anything from Trace. They are a powerless debt collector and the only thing that can actually do is to try and make the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree pay up out of ignorance and fear.
As long as the initial appeal was made by the Keeper and the driver was not identified, there is nothing they can do about this. That does not mean that they won't try and litigate this. However, it would never be allowed to get as far as a hearing if your facts are correct.
If the alleged contravention was on 25th August 2021, the initial Notice to Keeper (NtK) must have been issued no later than 6th September. If the date of the original (reminders do not count) NtK was 1st November 2021, then there can be no Keeper liability.
Was this issued as postal NtK or was there a windscreen Notice to Driver (NtD)?
Until you verify the dates of the actual notices and the types, there is little else you can do for now. If/when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC), there will be more to do. Never, ever, enter into communication with a powerless debt collector.
Yes the attachment in the archived forum post was the initial notice to keeper that was received. On the basis that NtK must have been issued no later than 6th September but it was issued 1st November can I just ignore this then?
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The archive footage states that there wasn't a NTD.
If this is correct, then OP pl don't clutter the thread with what ifs and hypothetical scenarios..sorry to be harsh.
They can issue a LoC and commence proceedings if they want...and waste their time and money thereby.
They may not by law hold you liable for the driver's liability because objectively they have not met the legal conditions for doing so.
End of.
Don't argue or debate outside court, wait for your moment in court if they're foolish enough to continue.
Just follow procedure if they pursue.
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You can safely ignore anything from Trace. They are a powerless debt collector and the only thing that can actually do is to try and make the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree pay up out of ignorance and fear.
As long as the initial appeal was made by the Keeper and the driver was not identified, there is nothing they can do about this. That does not mean that they won't try and litigate this. However, it would never be allowed to get as far as a hearing if your facts are correct.
If the alleged contravention was on 25th August 2021, the initial Notice to Keeper (NtK) must have been issued no later than 6th September. If the date of the original (reminders do not count) NtK was 1st November 2021, then there can be no Keeper liability.
Was this issued as postal NtK or was there a windscreen Notice to Driver (NtD)?
Until you verify the dates of the actual notices and the types, there is little else you can do for now. If/when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC), there will be more to do. Never, ever, enter into communication with a powerless debt collector.
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Hi,
This is a continuation of the discussion that started on the old forums.
(https://web.archive.org/web/20230924012646mp_/http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=142052&st=0).
Summary:
Date of parking: 25.08.2021
Date of PCN: 01.11.2021
Date of response 25.11.2021
So on 25.11.2021 I (registered keeper) responded to the PCN by giving them the drivers version of events and also supporting evidence that I was not the driver.
I have had no correspondence from them until I received the attached. Seems they have passed this on to a debt collections agency.
Have I exhausted all avenues of appeal at this point?
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