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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: sam999 on April 24, 2025, 03:07:22 pm
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The "End of Bus Lane" sign marks the spot where it ends, it is not an invitation to enter the bus lane before it ends. Councils dine out very generously on people moving into a bus lane early for left turns. Just look at the notorious Whipps Cross bus lane. I've never, ever, seen a bus in the videos for this site.
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To be clear it is this end of bus lane sign by the traffic lights, which seem to have separate lights for buses?
(https://i.ibb.co/WpcVNT0g/Screenshot-2025-04-24-at-15-34-14.png)
Yes it is, and I hadn't even considered separate lights to be honest, I just saw the sign and read it as a "get in lane" type sign especially with the traffic ahead.
I've checked the guidelines for cancellation and it does say if the vehicle cuts the end of the lane to turn left they may cancel it
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To be clear it is this end of bus lane sign by the traffic lights, which seem to have separate lights for buses?
(https://i.ibb.co/WpcVNT0g/Screenshot-2025-04-24-at-15-34-14.png)
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I have received the following which I am extremely annoyed about.
As shown in the PCN photos there was a long queue of cars in the right hand lane during rush hour, and there was a queue after the traffic lights also filling the left lane. Since I saw the "END OF BUS LANE" sign I falsely believed I could safely move over a few cars before the sign so as not to block the right hand lane while waiting in hope that someone would let me into the left lane. The video also captures me indicating and moving into the lane at the last minute showing that I was using the correct lane the rest of the time.
All common sense driving to get in your lane at a suitable time and not try to cut into traffic but this camera is clearly designed to extort that.
GSV link (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3597744,-1.4253601,3a,75y,275.22h,84.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srnAL5KfQrLrH6XQgV77tGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.15067272861728%26panoid%3DrnAL5KfQrLrH6XQgV77tGQ%26yaw%3D275.21744005431935!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQyMS4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D)
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There's no defence for any of these three drivers - undercutting traffic like this is tempting but not in a bus lane provided it is properly signed.
There may be something in the PCN or website.
You left your name and address showing.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Zkdr8tr/shef.gif)
I wasn't trying to undercut at all, I thought since it was signed end of bus lane it was okay to move over on approach to the sign, and since the lanes were jammed it made every sense to.
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There's no defence for any of these three drivers - undercutting traffic like this is tempting but not in a bus lane provided it is properly signed.
There may be something in the PCN or website.
You left your name and address showing.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Zkdr8tr/shef.gif)
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I have received the following which I am extremely annoyed about.
As shown in the PCN photos there was a long queue of cars in the right hand lane during rush hour, and there was a queue after the traffic lights also filling the left lane. Since I saw the "END OF BUS LANE" sign I falsely believed I could safely move over a few cars before the sign so as not to block the right hand lane while waiting in hope that someone would left me into the left lane. The video also captures me indicating and moving into the lane at the last minute showing that I was using the correct lane the rest of the time.
All common sense driving to get in your lane at a suitable time and not try to cut into traffic but this camera is clearly designed to extort that.
GSV link (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3597744,-1.4253601,3a,75y,275.22h,84.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srnAL5KfQrLrH6XQgV77tGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.15067272861728%26panoid%3DrnAL5KfQrLrH6XQgV77tGQ%26yaw%3D275.21744005431935!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQyMS4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D)
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