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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Usiaw on April 23, 2025, 11:43:43 am

Title: Re: London Borough of Brent PCN - Contravention Code: 16
Post by: Usiaw on May 02, 2025, 11:29:21 pm
Could that apply despite the car not being in a loading bay?

It was a work deposit after a client paid me in cash.
Title: Re: London Borough of Brent PCN - Contravention Code: 16
Post by: stamfordman on May 02, 2025, 12:22:45 am
Some councils will consider bank deposits as mitigation under their loading criteria. We don't have Brent's policy.

What was the nature of the deposit.
Title: Re: London Borough of Brent PCN - Contravention Code: 16
Post by: Usiaw on May 01, 2025, 04:55:01 pm
Sorry about the delayed response.

The bank's address is: Nationwide, 48a High Road, Kilburn NW6 4HJ.

I was there to make a deposit. There wasn't even a queue, but the machine just took a weirdly long while to process a not-that-big amount (about minute and a half too long, as I saw the CEO by the car as I was jogging back - I also just noticed the photos show the lights flashing as I was unlocking the car to signal to the CEO that I was back).

I just seriously struggled to find a free payable bay.

There was actually Tesla at the top of the road on double yellows and I did think to myself "I bet they get away with it and I don't" as I went into the bank. Turns out they did (no ticket on them as I came back).

Anyway, the PCN does look in order to my untrained eye so I may just have to cough up.
Title: Re: London Borough of Brent PCN - Contravention Code: 16
Post by: H C Andersen on April 23, 2025, 05:11:11 pm
What's the address of the bank?
Title: Re: London Borough of Brent PCN - Contravention Code: 16
Post by: stamfordman on April 23, 2025, 02:03:04 pm
The PCN looks in order.

What were you doing at the bank?

(https://i.imgur.com/qlQV1xo.png)
Title: London Borough of Brent PCN - Contravention Code: 16
Post by: Usiaw on April 23, 2025, 11:43:43 am
Hello,

Unfortunately, I just received a PCN for contravention code 16:

“Parked in a permit space or zone without a valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid physical permit where required”

After doing some research and considering the context of why I had to park here (found absolutely nowhere else to park for a short period after driving in circles for 10 minutes, needed to visit a bank) I don’t believe there is a valid grounds for appeal but I’m wondering if there’s anything I’ve overlooked.

I needed 5-6 minutes in the bank and thought the observation period was 5 minutes, so could just about risk it, but it turns out it’s just a 3 minute observation period in Brent.

PCN: https://imgur.com/a/oaiA2S0

Street view: https://maps.app.goo.gl/3rTnwPxF38Pai8nx5

Any help would be appreciated. I acknowledge getting out of this one seems unlikely. Paying £160 (£80 with a discount) is particularly bitter after needing to visit a bank. What makes it worse is no CEO has walked by in the 30 minutes since I got back to the car, despite one apparently noting the car within a minute of me leaving. Bad luck, I guess.

Thanks