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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Ambient111 on April 15, 2025, 11:01:23 pm

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: Incandescent on April 16, 2025, 07:59:53 pm

But the sign is there, and also in the format I think is the best. There also doesn't seem to be anything nearby that might obscure it.  Of course a high-sided vehicle parked on that side could obscure it, but you would have to make the case that that was why you didn't see it.

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: Ambient111 on April 16, 2025, 05:54:15 pm

@stanmfordman - This sign is located on the left hand sign I'd say about 20m before the turn, definitely not the clearest to see when you're driving!

https://ibb.co/Q7S1KmwV

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: Hippocrates on April 16, 2025, 12:46:24 pm

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: stamfordman on April 16, 2025, 11:18:44 am

Are there any advance signs on the side road - cases are won at the tribunal on turning into a restriction if the adjudicator thinks it isn't clear enough.

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: Ambient111 on April 16, 2025, 08:39:19 am

Ah thanks for explaining! I'm just being (overly) cautious!

Here are the three images from the council website and sharing the video again:

https://ibb.co/n8tmV0vG
https://ibb.co/5gsb3mDX
https://ibb.co/ZpmBDFBB

Video
https://streamable.com/8u5q5l

Many thanks  :)

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: Incandescent on April 15, 2025, 11:56:46 pm

Why on earth are you so hung up on the numberplate ? It's on display all the time you drive around or park in a public place. On this forum, we used PCN Number and car reg to view videos and photos taken by the councils, as some OPs can't manage to do this.
Of course, name and address should never be on view.

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: Ambient111 on April 15, 2025, 11:50:59 pm

Thanks so much for the quick reply!

Does this help even though I stopped it before the number plate is shown?

https://streamable.com/8u5q5l

Title: Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: stamfordman on April 15, 2025, 11:08:08 pm

You've blanked the VRM so I can't post the video.

Title: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Post by: Ambient111 on April 15, 2025, 11:01:23 pm

Hi there! I recently received the PCN for: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement). Do I stand any chance with an appeal?

PCN:

https://ibb.co/4nhNfDmf
https://ibb.co/SX4nP2Mc
https://ibb.co/N2szD4yc
https://ibb.co/WNHM8pvL
https://ibb.co/9HW4kDYF

Images from council online evidence showing the signs:

https://ibb.co/VcvyKqDf
https://ibb.co/7tfqyTsk
https://ibb.co/QvYqTB2j

I have been back to the location and now see a small sign on the left side of the road that shows there is a restriction between those hours, but it's not very obvious when driving. When you approach the turn itself from The Ridgeway into Bethune Avenue, it's also a very tight angle to see the signs. What's also interesting is that you'll see from the pictures below that they've turned the signs out of the hours when you can get a ticket.

Please see attached some pictures from the location:

https://ibb.co/Q7F946GZ
https://ibb.co/JFynJML4
https://ibb.co/zMSFwFZ
https://ibb.co/5xBr9n07
https://ibb.co/Q7S1KmwV
https://ibb.co/0Vh2Qm4q

Video from location:

https://streamable.com/jf50c5

Apologies I only have until this Friday to appeal.

Many thanks for your advice!