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Title: Re: Would you challenge this PCN? Parking sign defaced / illegible.
Post by: Incandescent on April 13, 2025, 08:03:40 pm
Is the "perfect" sign the CEO photographed, on the same side of the street, or the other side ? If it's on the other side, it doesn't apply.
Title: Re: Would you challenge this PCN? Parking sign defaced / illegible.
Post by: stamfordman on April 13, 2025, 06:16:55 pm
Update this thread when you get a reply.
Title: Re: Would you challenge this PCN? Parking sign defaced / illegible.
Post by: adamabdula on April 13, 2025, 06:14:34 pm
Yes, in the meantime I have replied to contest it on grounds of the sign being illegible and defaced. As I mentioned, he took a picture of another sign which was on the other end of the road and nowhere near my car. Unsurprisingly, he made sure to take no pictures of the sign next to my car that was illegible
Title: Re: Would you challenge this PCN? Parking sign defaced / illegible.
Post by: stamfordman on April 13, 2025, 06:11:04 pm
You've already challenged this - what have you said?

The CEO has taken a pic of a non-defaced parking sign.

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Title: Re: Would you challenge this PCN? Parking sign defaced / illegible.
Post by: adamabdula on April 13, 2025, 05:50:12 pm
The PCN

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Title: Re: Would you challenge this PCN? Parking sign defaced / illegible.
Post by: stamfordman on April 13, 2025, 05:46:30 pm
Post the PCN with no redactions.
Title: Would you challenge this PCN? Parking sign defaced / illegible.
Post by: adamabdula on April 13, 2025, 05:15:32 pm
Hi,

Usually, in my area (Bermondsey, London) street parking is free after 6pm and also on weekends. I parked on a road by Bermondsey station that I have never parked on before. This was well after 8pm. I returned to my car to find a council parking ticket at 9.36pm (never knew they even worked this late). The ticket stated it’s because I was parked in a permit only spot which is active until 11pm. While I do not contest I was obviously parked there, the issue is that the sign right in front of my car was completely defaced and illegible (blank white). There were no other signs nearby unless you went all the way down to the other side of the road (very long). There was also no ‘permit’ markings on the bays, which usually there are. In the evidence the parking officer submitted, he never put a picture of the defaced sign, he went to the other end of road and took a picture of that sign which was nowhere near my car.

Obviously if I had seen a sign saying it was permit only until 11pm, I would never have parked there. It was my fault to assume that particular road would also be free after 6pm, which is a lesson learned.

Would you dispute this illegible sign or is it not worth my time? Will it be rejected, and if so - should I take it to tribunal?

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