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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: timoteus on April 10, 2025, 09:59:23 pm
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Here is the location : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DU5dxrfPm1dAhfuVA
Clear double-yellow lines in 2022, the latest GSV view, and the photos confirm they are still there. I don't know where your relative lives, but certainly in London the streets are patrolled 24x7 by CEOs and parking for any length of time on DYLs is just asking for a PCN. Ignorance of what they mean is not a defence. Also note that no signs are needed, the lines are enough on their own. It is certainly true that in the provinces one could well get away with parking on DYLs in certain locations, but there is always the risk even there of parking at the time the CEO comes around for his daily patrol.
Certainly I cannot see any credible appeal argument, but there may be a technical appeal based on Waltham Forest mismanagement of the enforcement process. Councils must obey the law and regulations as well as the motorist. So wait a bit to see if anybody suggests anything, but if you're minded to pay the discount, don't miss the deadline for that.
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Surely your relative knows that double yellow lines apply 24/7?
Were they aware they were on double yellows, and how long for?
I can ask them, but would that actually constitute a defence if they were somehow unaware? (e.g.. if the lines were not clearly marked - though photos suggest this is not the case).
The contravention wording is standard for yellow lines.
Fair enough - it seemed an odd contravention code to me at first glance. But then I've not exactly "been round the block".
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Surely your relative knows that double yellow lines apply 24/7?
Were they aware they were on double yellows, and how long for?
The contravention wording is standard for yellow lines.
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On the evening of 4th April, a relative came to visit us and parked in Hooker's Road (on double yellow lines, outside of a marked bay - see photos below, link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CNdy7eyJ62oBNbWSA). When they returned to their vehicle they found they had been issued a PCN at 9:03pm, with the violation code stated as "01 Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours".
At first glance this seems like an incorrect violation code - the prescribed hours that restrictions are in place is 8am - 6:30pm, Mon - Sat (permit holders only). There is no mention of being parked outside of the bay.
One thing to note though is that all of the signs have been spray painted over in red (see photo below) - I'm not sure what the purpose of this was. Could this be an attempt to invalidate the timings of the restrictions so that they apply 24/7, or simply vandalism? If anything it makes it less clear what the restrictions actually are.
(https://i.imgur.com/r91YFye.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K5s8TGc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6u7E8Ag.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LqWCuZ1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XkhIDeq.jpg)
Thanks!