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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: abhishek1989 on April 07, 2025, 10:38:39 pm

Title: Re: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: abhishek1989 on April 10, 2025, 11:26:49 am

Thanks! Any pointers on the technical appeal argument, folks? Thanks again for your help on this.

Title: Re: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: stamfordman on April 09, 2025, 04:55:00 pm

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Title: Re: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: abhishek1989 on April 09, 2025, 10:06:12 am

Thank you! I'll wait for one or two more days to see if there's any chance for a Technical appeal, if not pay the discounted price :( Thank you everyone for your help!

Title: Re: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: Incandescent on April 09, 2025, 09:57:07 am

Quote from: abhishek1989 on April 09, 2025, 07:04:51 am

Any grounds based on the above, please? Thanks!

I see nothing against the contravention itself, sorry to have to say it.  If nobody here comes up with a 'technical appeal' case, then the discount may be your best option.

Title: Re: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: abhishek1989 on April 09, 2025, 07:04:51 am

Any grounds based on the above, please? Thanks!

Title: Re: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: abhishek1989 on April 08, 2025, 07:00:33 am

Thanks, yes - looks like they've made the road one way at some point of time.

Please see below, multiple Traffic Notices, Temporary Prohibition of Traffic

https://publicnoticeportal.uk/notice/traffic-and-roads/66aa091594b9ff0f980779f1

https://publicnoticeportal.uk/notice/traffic-and-roads/6734752c942fcc68649a42d4

I only drove with such confidence because I used to live in the area and regularly drove through those roads before the restrictions were in place. I do acknowledge that it was my mistake to miss the signs

Title: Re: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: Incandescent on April 08, 2025, 12:10:37 am

Wow ! Not the usual "Flying Motorbike" signs, but traditional "No Entry" signs ! As far as I see from the videos, you drove head-on to them, and totally ignored them. I have to say, use of No Entry signs is unusual, unless, of course, they have made the road one-way and you drove the wrong way !

GSV Streetview is too out-of-date to show these signs, the last view was 2022. So if you could do some legwork and tell us if there are any advance warnings of the restriction it would help build a case. I have to say that this does not look like an easy case to get dismissed. However, there may be a technical appeal argument based on Newham mismanagement of the enforcement process, so wait a bit to see what comes up. These specialised arguments can win an adjudication on their own, regardless of the original contravention.

Title: Newham - PCN - Two 'no entry' contraventions on the same road 4 hours apart (Before/After parking)
Post by: abhishek1989 on April 07, 2025, 10:38:39 pm

Hi there – I received two 'no entry' contraventions on two ends of the same road: one while going and another on the way back after parking there for 2–3 hours. These are relatively new enforcements that I wasn’t aware of. Do I have any grounds to appeal?

https://imgur.com/a/EesQtrQ

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https://imgur.com/SzYARsQ

https://imgur.com/RLojo2x




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