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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: raychilli on April 07, 2025, 08:32:02 am

Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: raychilli on April 09, 2025, 01:09:16 am
It was obviously just a threat. No clamp has been put on my car.
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: H C Andersen on April 08, 2025, 09:21:33 pm
My car has not been clamped at alL

I refer you to the third link in post #1:

....I have fitted a device to secure your vehicle(s).

We only know what you tell us, and currently I'm confused.
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: stamfordman on April 08, 2025, 01:03:08 pm
Do you have a record of the V5C logbook. As pointed out you are missing at least three letters:

PCN
Charge certificate
Order for recovery.

Call TFL and ask them for the name and address they sent the PCN to. 
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: raychilli on April 08, 2025, 10:59:51 am
The first time I was made aware was when they attended my property. My car has not been clamped at all. My old car died so I sold it.
I would like to find a way of reverting to original pcn so I can pay it.
There is a communal car park out side my property (not directly) we have permit parking in place there now too.
Thanks.
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: H C Andersen on April 07, 2025, 02:22:17 pm
Let's be clear.

You are claiming that none of the statutory notices issued by TfL (3 namely the PCN, Charge Certificate and Order for Recovery) was received by you, yes?

You are also claiming that you did not receive the Notice of Enforcement from the bailiff, yes?

Whose car has been clamped and where is it located? I ask because the car which was involved in the contravention was sold by you in Jan. 2025, therefore as you had not made contact with the bailiff they could only have clamped this different vehicle on your property on the assumption that it is your property. So, do you live in a property with a unique parking area or is it a shared facility?

IMO, the only way of getting the clamp quickly removed is to pay. This matter is procedural at present so pl don't go into the whys and wherefores of the contravention, these may be needed later, but not now. Paying has no effect on whether you would be successful in having matters reset to the original PCN, and therefore all payments refunded, but you must stop further escalation of the debt and the nuisance that the car's removal would cause.
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: raychilli on April 07, 2025, 01:28:49 pm
i sold the car
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: stamfordman on April 07, 2025, 12:13:34 pm
You changed the logbook on 2 January 2025. Why?
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: raychilli on April 07, 2025, 12:11:22 pm
it's all in my name and address, post gets lost here unfortunately
Title: Re: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: stamfordman on April 07, 2025, 09:27:45 am
Where is your car. As it's clamped I don't think you have any option but to pay but they should have served an enforcement notice on you first.

Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 2 January 2025

Where was the car registered before - this is likely to be where the PCN and other letters went as contravention date is 26 August 2024.
Title: PCN at Bailiff stage
Post by: raychilli on April 07, 2025, 08:32:02 am
I have a pcn and have bailiffs attending my property.
The PCN is for Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, see picture from link for this and correspondence from bailiffs

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1kC1uy8uE1UxP7Qr6

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DTyMdvf2e7m211h77

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fyb5867L7JcdVX8k8

Area: WEST CROSS ROUTE / HOLLAND PARK R'ABOUT

I have informed the bailiffs that I did not receive any correspondence from tfl on this matter. Please advise me what I should do.

Thanks in advance

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