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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: oldford20 on April 02, 2025, 06:11:56 pm
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I've reviewed the footage and you've no chance of success based on that - the video shows a textbook contravention.
We have had success in the past on the basis of vague location for Goodmayes Road as there are so many box junctions along it (at least five) so the description on the PCN isn't really adequate. The resolution of the video is pretty good however and you can (just about) make out the name of the side road in it, but you may still have success with this argument. I've pasted a winning adjudication decision for Goodmayes Road on this basis at the bottom of this post.
The Notice of Rejection also says the following in respect of your deadline to appeal to the tribunal: "Or you can appeal to the Environment & Traffic Adjudicators (ETA, part of London Tribunals) using the enclosed appeal form. This must be done no later than 28 days of this letter being served".
There's a typo somewhere in there as the grammar doesn't make sense, but to me it reads like you must do it within 28 days of the letter being served. The actual deadline is one day fewer than this as the day it is served counts as day 1, so actually you must do it within 27 days of being served.
See what others think about this, but this might be another argument you can use as Redbridge haven't supplied mandatory information in the Notice of Rejection.
Case Details
Case reference 223033552A
Appellant Janice Flint
Authority London Borough of Redbridge
VRM FV65SVZ
PCN Details
PCN AF97410735
Contravention date 19 Jun 2023
Contravention time 13:46:00
Contravention location Goodmayes Road
Penalty amount GBP 130.00
Contravention Entering and stopping in a box junction
Referral date
Decision Date 17 Aug 2023
Adjudicator Edward Houghton
Appeal decision Appeal allowed
Direction cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.
Reasons
The Appellant was represented by Mr Dishman. The grounds of Appeal are set out in Mr Dishman’s skeleton argument which he developed before me. Having considered the matter carefully it seems to me that at least one of the grounds of appeal has some merit. The location is described as Goodmayes Road; however Mr Dishman tells me, and I accept, that there are three box junctions in Goodmayes Road. |The PCN is required to set out the grounds on which a penalty is demanded, and this inevitably includes a clear statement of the location of the alleged contravention. Although it might be possible for a motorist to trace the location from the photographs with some effort the Council’s prior duty is to set it out clearly. There seems to me no good reason why the location could not simply be stated as Goodmayes road junction with (naming the adjacent road) as would routinely be done in the case of a road traffic summons in the Magistrates Court. As the PCN was defective no penalty may be demanded on the basis of it and the Appeal ids allowed
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Hi,
Honestly think I messed up on this occasion and just caught out by not being focused enough but thought I would check if anyone has any thoughts.
https://my.redbridge.gov.uk/ParkingPCN
Penalty Charge Notice: AF30738480
Vehicle registration: AO18FOJ
I did try an appeal to say:
a) the location of Goodmayes Road isnt clear as there are many on that road
b) Enforcement officer 110 isnt clear what this means
c) That it wasnt clear that the road was turning stationary because my view was blocked by two buses
I didnt feel strongly about any of these reasons to be honest and the appeal rejection didnt really address them either.
Next stage is to take to tribunal but have to pay £130 instead of the reduced £65 now. I don't feel I have a strong ground to take it there but perhaps I missed something.
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